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Sarah Palin: The Barracuda

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Garpal Gumnut said:
It didn't seem to make much difference when the USA was led by a sex addict, Kennedy or Clinton.
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Forgive my ignorance but what does being a 'sex addict' have to do with competence in foreign affairs?

While I believe that John McCain is an impressive Republican candidate I think his choice of running mate is pretty sad. Chosen purely for her appeal to ignorant red-neck types while trying to corner the womens vote at the same time... Not for any skilled handling of Alaska. Seriously sad stuff.\

I mean Arnie is the governor of an economic powerhouse vastly more important than Alaska and has even been re-elected - that doesn't mean he is competent. It might mean his advisors/public servants are, but my personal opinion is that is not even correct.
 

The minute I saw her speech I was intrigued and got that intuitive feeling that she is going to be tough to beat with McCain.
 
a pity that after an election no-one knows who the veep is???

Cheers
...........Kauri
 
Sarah Palin seems to have gotten up the nose of the commentariat.

The Australian ABC lady and gentlemen reporters and commentators although not sharing her politics , have shown some restraint in their coverage, to their credit.

She does inflame left wing women though, particularly.

Is it her fertility?

She has certainly got more genetic potential than the sad left darlings having their first baby through IVF in early middle age.

gg
 
ABC summary of the week (11.oo am Saturday radio) ..

"but when she criticised Obama, that he had written two books but no legislation, it smacked of redneck to me, beware them books etc "..

plenty of jokes yesterday ... Sarah talking to her son-in-law to be ... see that moose over thar son ? , see this shotgun ? , BOOM !
 


lol

gg
 
So only women with left political leanings ever have IVF?
 
Dont worry Julia, GG is just showing how typically stupid and ignorant hard-core right wingers are.

I mean to make it to the hardcore set you have to pretty much have ignorance, bigotry, greed, narcissism and stupidity as your primary character traits. Oh and there is a high likelihood of being xenophobic as well.

Represent bro.
 
Julia said:
So only women with left political leanings ever have IVF?
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No Julia, Many people of the right have IVF.

There is a generation though of "progressive women" who are leaving their pregnancies until later in life and often have to seek IVF to conceive. Many of these are in the left commentariat and sneer at the younger bogans who readily pop out a child in their teens.

By the way I am told that seventeen is probably the ideal age physically to have a baby.


gg
 

Nash mate, it sounds more like the NSW Labor Party on a night out beating up on honest hospitality workers rather than any right wing people I know..

All those traits are present on both sides of politics.

However to question the status quo is forbidden, particularly when it is a challenge to entrenched interest groups.

Young bogan women stick it to the commentariat every time they get pregnant. and an attractive intelligent working class woman like Sarah Palin does it doubly so.

Next you'll tell me your a godbotherer.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
No Julia, Many people of the right have IVF.

There is a generation ..... and sneer at the younger bogans who readily pop out a child in their teens.

By the way I am told that seventeen is probably the ideal age physically to have a baby.
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heck . when I was growing up on the commune, any girl who didn't have at least 2 kids before the age of 15 was considered a slow learner.
 
Biologically you might be ready but I don't know any people age 17 now that are psychologically or economically ready to raise a child WELL. You can't just whip ten kids out these days without some pretty drastic financial repercussions not to mention any other issues.

Women now work GG because society expects and prepares them to at all levels.

I would agree that those traits are present on both sides of politics but I would say that there is a resounding difference. Most right wing voting people are looking at their own bottom pocket and how they themselves are affected by policy. Whether it be tax, unemployment (and those pesky wallet draining dole bludgers), illegal immigrants (aren't they called refugees unless and until they get sent back since the majority of them are found to be?), aboriginal issues, law and sentencing issues (let's sentence them for longer and more often even though we know through studies and experience it does nothing but create more recidivism and better(?) criminals), etc. Every policy, if even looked at, is looked at "How will that effect me?". Unfortunately Johhny dragged Labor well to the right on some of these policies but the major difference between left and right voters in my opinion is that left voters actually care (as in have sentimental concern for) about what happens to others as much as themselves, whether they be students, unemployed or some other socio-economic or racial class.

It's a big generalisation I know GG but I will have you take my "Am I a righty or lefty?" test when I can be bothered to write it and you will prove me right as I have seen and heard it repeated many times.

Many of the people I went to uni with voted JWH in for his second term on the flimsiest of premises, but the one that was repeated most often was, "Well I earn good money and I know the Liberal party will look after me". Now I would refute that sentiment especially in the last 20 odd years but that is a one word sentence that to me summarises the most common reason people have for voting Liberal. I will summarise it further and call it greed and self-interest. I mean didn't the right wing journalists coin the term 'bleeding hearts' as though caring for someone elses situation is a bad thing. Isn't it funny that as evidenced by places like the 'Bible Belt' in the US that most of these people are still voting for a party that derides a trait expected from their own religion.....

edit: I just wanted to note that despite the alleged intelligence of my friends from uni that voted Johhnie in for round 2, none of them knew any actual Liberal policy. Funny stuff that.
 


The big difference between left and right is that the right actually work to make a difference.

All the feeling and worry in the world, all the social engineering, won't make a difference to the poor sods in Macquarie Fields or other disadvantaged areas.

The left have set up structures to disable people from working together to make better lives for themselves. bigger health and social security departments do not make for a healthier society.

Safety in your place of abode, good nutrition, protection from substances and crime, and a fair go are things that folk like Sarah Palin stand for.

All the inquiries and studies in the world a la Kev 07 will not put bread on a child's table.

I know many lefties earning in excess of $200000 a year sitting in government jobs whose only intention is to take that dough home to their families, now that is self interest and greed.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The big difference between left and right is that the right actually work to make a difference.
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I'm not sure if this comment proves the stupidity or the ignorance or both. We have about 4% unemployment, so I assume you are saying all left voters are just bludgers at work, or that they spout great ideas over a chardy but don't actually do anything? What a ridiculous comment GG. I am about as far left as you can go without being communist and I have been complemented throughout my life on my work ethic. I also know many many hard working successful (non-public service) people that vote left. I have worked for a number of volunteer organisations that are not politically aligned in any way and yet the resounding number of people working for them are left leaning. I know NONE of my right voting uni mates are doing anything to consciously help anyone else out.

bigger health and social security departments do not make for a healthier society.
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Ever lived in the US, GG? I have. Do you really want people on every second corner begging or homeless people and slums everywhere? Do you really want to wait 48 hrs at an emergency dept as a mate of mine did despite being really ill as the resources weren't there? Do you want to pay $150 for a 5 min consultation at a GP surgery with no answer to my problem because that is the going rate? I mean, you obviously don't want to pay for it but I can guarantee Australia looks like twice the place the US is after having lived there for 4 years.
 

I'm sorry I didn't mean to denigrate public service, and I'm sorry if I upset you.

My case is that the left are misguided, not necessarily all of them being venal. They go on about caring but care no more or less than the right.

The right get things done and in the process improve everyone's lot.

I also find that people who care like you and who get het up about it have a lot more in common with your right wing opponents than you do with many of the dipstick left wing appartchiks who time serve presently in government in Australia.

gg
 

Jeez mate you add stuff in after you've posted and I've answered.

That situation is occurring in Townsville as we speak.

The health system is knackered in Queensland and we have so many inquiries and so many bloody Labor party people running around earning more money out of the mess that some are again talking about setting up a State of North Queensland so we can get away from the incompetent southerners in Brisbane. The hospital is too small five years after being built and the ED docs are on television every day crying out for help.

All on a Labor watch

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
My case is that the left are misguided, not necessarily all of them being venal. They go on about caring but care no more or less than the right.

The right get things done and in the process improve everyone's lot.
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Then why have right wing journalists coined the term 'bleeding heart' as a derisive term if the right cares so much? Your comments just aren't true. It is very true that some right voters care - I mean who wouldn't attend a charity dinner at $150 a head if they were rich.

Its also blatantly untrue that they improve everyones lot. They might improve overall wealth but as has been seen recently, most of this wealth is going to the already wealthy..

I have to go unfortunately so I cant reply at length
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The big difference between left and right is that the right actually work to make a difference.
gg
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What is it with you right wingers. That is a classic superior piece of nonsense.

Garpal Gumnut said:
I know many lefties earning in excess of $200000 a year sitting in government jobs whose only intention is to take that dough home to their families, now that is self interest and greed.
gg
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Why is it that right wingers consider left wingers to be "hypocritical" if they are "less a person" than Jesus Christ.

Do all right wingers expect left wingers to give all their money to charity? Come on Garpul, get realist.
 

Because they go on like JC, thats why, so they should go the whole hog.

Yes they should give all their money that they earn on these inquiries and commissions to charity rather than giving it to Tricom and Opes Prime principals.

Sheesh, some people


gg
 
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