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chops_a_must said:

I have read it, and I appreciate the effort. However, I have a few corrections.

I see nowhere where it says the entire range of UNI needles are pre-filled. The syringe that is available for distribution, as of now, can be used for insulin injections. Because of this, they can't be pre-filled. But yes, the pre-filled needles are their target market.

The UNI needle's retraction is fully controlled by the user.

If RTL have had approval for so long, how come they aren't already selling the product? UNI have their syringes ready for sale now. They have a deal in Canada, which is the biggest market for this stuff, and have GUARANTEED sales there.

I will probably end up owning both of these stocks, but at the moment, UNI is ready to go to market with its main product now. I guess the long wait for the RTL sales is the real drag.

I will be keeping an eye on this stock however. Because whoever wins the race, the earnings potential of both companies are absolutely massive.

Sorry for the late reply... stupid clients. Lol!

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I will get back to you on these points!
Today i will ring both companies and find out some finer details and see if i cant get them arguing their cases. This has got to be easier than scrolling thru the last 5 years of ann!
Sorry i think i have made an assumption about uni being only a prefilled syringe! However i cant find anywhere that says its type of syringe can be used for fluid extraction. I will get to the bottom of this and a few other points as each company has made contradictory points reguarding their syringes
However the point over retraction as best i can tell at this stage
uni - is an involuntary retraction automatically engaged when plunger is pushed.
rtl - is a voluntary retraction user activated.

- both are offering size range 1, 3 and 5ml and interchangeable needle sizes.

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Well i have spoken to both co's this morning and am slightly closer to working out the pros and cons of each product!
Spoke to Steve Allen of UNI and a Tom (chief engineer of RTL), both willing to give their time which was refreshing.
The main differences at this stage from what i can tell is the retraction device as stated in previous post. Both automatic and have control over speed of retraction. But RTL is user engaged whereas UNI is automatically engaged.
Both are spring activated.
Both will have interchangeable needles sizes (RTL have this product UNI still in development stage)
Fluid extraction is possile with RTLs device but this is not the intended use.
UNI has a gate inside its chamber that prevents the plunger from being withdrawn once first pushed.
RTL plunger is free to move which allows the making up of metered doses of medicine that are in a powder form.
UNI have prefilled syringes RTL is yet to enter this market.
Both are aimed at the health care market but different segments within it.

RTL is still further advanced but only by 6 - 12 months. They have released their product to a distributor for final testing and subsequent lisencing negotiation.
RTL have so far chosen BBraun as a key supplier to supply to all other distributors. This will slingshot sales but with mpu sacrifice (margins per unit)
Whereas UNI will be directly negotiating with suppliers increasing mpu.

RTL has outsourced its manufacturing
UNI has bought its manufacturer (again increasing mpu)

RTL has fda approval
UNI has applied for fda approval but as they are manufacturing their own product the process will be drawn out but expected by end of 2007.

UNI sees its direct compeditor as Beck and Dickinson who are major suppliers of syringes to the US market.

Market cap of RTL 11mill - 117,ooo,ooo shares
Market cap of UNI 54 mill - 151,ooo,ooo shares 9,6oo,ooo options

Both companies have been smashed as far as share price goes but they are both nearing completion of their projects and to be honest both look promising. RTL offers perhaps a little more leverage imo at its low price with BBraun being able to expose its products at a faster rate. However long term UNI has greater mpu.
Chops i hate syringes and i hate them even more now!

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constable said:

Both companies have been smashed as far as share price goes but they are both nearing completion of their projects and to be honest both look promising. RTL offers perhaps a little more leverage imo at its low price with BBraun being able to expose its products at a faster rate. However long term UNI has greater mpu.
Chops i hate syringes and i hate them even more now!

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Double Lol! Thanks heaps for all of this. What does MPU stand for? But yes, come early March, if they do get what they are looking for, you will find I'll be holding this one as well.

But yes, both companies have MASSIVE potential. And I'm sure both will do well.

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chops_a_must said:

Double Lol! Thanks heaps for all of this. What does MPU stand for? But yes, come early March, if they do get what they are looking for, you will find I'll be holding this one as well.

But yes, both companies have MASSIVE potential. And I'm sure both will do well.

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mpu margin per unit.
Am holding both both now couldnt help but notice on the 5 year chart the large cup handle forming on uni!

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constable said:

mpu margin per unit.
Am holding both both now couldnt help but notice on the 5 year chart the large cup handle forming on uni!

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Yes, I noticed that forming this week, and expected a stronger break out from it on yesterday's ann. And it better bloody well break out. It's my tip this month! Lol!

Thanks for all the great info on this thread once again. Now looking for an entry on RTL.

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Great research Constable, very impressive !

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Hi all,

Just thought Id chip in with my experiences with this stock.

In 2003 when RTL was a newbie on the market i made my very first trade with them, doubled my money in 3 days and was extremely satisfied....
unfortunately due to various circumstances and me being in the real estate market I havent made any trades since....

thats it....

cheers

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According to RTL's announcement Dec 14, 2006, they stated that their 5ml and 10ml size retractable syringes will be available for delivery in February 2007.

Well, now its near the end of February 2007, but we still haven't heard any news from them in regards to those 5ml and 10ml being available for delivery to B Braun.

I have been eagerly awaiting for them to release this news because the last time they released news that the 3ml were sent to B Braun, their SP spiked from about 0.09 to an intra-day high of about 0.18.

Anyone have any ideas?

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azu said:

According to RTL's announcement Dec 14, 2006, they stated that their 5ml and 10ml size retractable syringes will be available for delivery in February 2007.

Well, now its near the end of February 2007, but we still haven't heard any news from them in regards to those 5ml and 10ml being available for delivery to B Braun.

I have been eagerly awaiting for them to release this news because the last time they released news that the 3ml were sent to B Braun, their SP spiked from about 0.09 to an intra-day high of about 0.18.

Anyone have any ideas?

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They spiked last time because the ann sinalled that they had overcome manufacturing problems. Although an ann on a new release would be positive i wouldnt expect anything gangbusters over it. The big ann. is bbrauns acceptance of the first lot of syringes which should come early april.
Why dont you ring their office and find out about the new release?

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constable, can you please help me ring them ?
since u seem kinda experienced in ringing them...

also... if they don't release thoses 5ml and 10ml by the end of feb 07 as promised, that could signal the start of more manufacturing problems?

either way.. i just hope that they can keep the market more up-to-date with whats happening. good or bad. I do hope its good of course.

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Chops i hope you got some at 9c! picked up 50k myself!

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constable said:

Chops i hope you got some at 9c! picked up 50k myself!

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Nope. Still can't see an entry on this one. Although the biotechs have been hit nowhere near as hard as other sectors. Would either like some good news... or a change in the chart before I get in I think.

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azu said:

constable, can you please help me ring them ?
since u seem kinda experienced in ringing them...

also... if they don't release thoses 5ml and 10ml by the end of feb 07 as promised, that could signal the start of more manufacturing problems?

either way.. i just hope that they can keep the market more up-to-date with whats happening. good or bad. I do hope its good of course.

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Yes more up to date , that would be refreshing . Anyway i have rung and there are no problems with the 5 and 10 ml syringes its just that BBraun are happy to complete their trialling with only one syringe size and the other sizes aren't required. To date progress is positive and still aiming for completion end of march and a recommendation mid april.
Looks as though share price and demand will drift until then but with the lack of supply, any positive news will spike it. Does seem undervalued at the 9c mark with a current market cap of 11mill, but the problems they encountered last year have sapped market confidence. Anyway happy with what ive researched and looking forward to proceedings in 5 or so weeks.

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Bit of volume today didnt move the price tho. Not long to go now anyway to the end of month . I hate waiting for ann. ie gdn eka hlx etc etc etc . I think trading price action is far easy than worring about fundamentals and trading on ann. Wel'l see if we get this trade right before i completely can the idea!
Nothing to stop this share from rocketing with a sniff of good news and no real available volume on the board.

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Just looking at whats happened the last few days (been on site monday and tues working for sir branson strangely enough) doesnt take much to move rtl does it! Still not expecting ann for another couple of weeks but should come in time so i dont languish again in the stock comp!

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Up 6.5% on low volume.
Got to top 10 in stock comp (briefly ).
Not much looking forward as far as supply goes after 9.7c is busted.
Is it just me or im the only person holding on this forum?

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constable said:

Up 6.5% on low volume.
Got to top 10 in stock comp (briefly ).
Not much looking forward as far as supply goes after 9.7c is busted.
Is it just me or im the only person holding on this forum?

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Well constable 9.7c has been busted after the large order @ 9.7c was split ....supply side problems now

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constable said:

Well constable 9.7c has been busted after the large order @ 9.7c was split ....supply side problems now

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What do u mean supply side problems?
Do they not have enough supply of the syringes?
I'm in on RTL as well so I'm very interested!!!!
Good to see the share at 10c.

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ExPrEsS82 said:

What do u mean supply side problems?
Do they not have enough supply of the syringes?
I'm in on RTL as well so I'm very interested!!!!
Good to see the share at 10c.

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Relax expresso, by supply side problems i was meaning available shares on the sell side ( no sell depth ) ......massive gap between buyers 9.6c and sellers 11c. This is a good thing if you already hold !

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Just thought id post a graph on rtl ,i havent done one for a while and it looks as though it's completed a recent period of accumulation. Break above 10c is the next move and then onto a 13c break.