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Yep I agree
This blame should be solely on driver that did not stop on Police request.
Definitely not blaming the police. They have a very tough job to do and need to make split second judgements that can have strong consequences. In this instance, the officers involved were simply following their protocols. Thus it is more a case for the legislators.
My argument would be that this case had some visible combustible elements in it (youth, stolen car etc) where it could reasonably be assumed that engaging in a police pursuit would lead to further recklessness on the part of this young guy that would put the public at an unreasonable level of risk. While he was speeding beforehand, he was not running red lights. Add the stress of the police pursuit and all of a sudden he is gunning red lights; hence the fatality.
The trade-off between maintaining law and order and preserving public safety needs to be looked at. I would say that if pulling out of 100 police chases would save even one life (especially that of the kids) then it is worth it. We should not value property/law and order above saving innocent lives.
But what if preserving public safety is best achieved by getting a speeding driver off the road? Who's to say how many people may have been plowed down had he not been pursued? Police are in a no-win situation quite often in this sort of scenario, and generally a pursuit will be abandoned if public safety becomes an issue. Unfortunately, abandoning a pursuit can simply lead to the speeder/thief speeding off to eventually injure or kill a motorist/pedestrian later on (especially if drunk/drugged) - then the cops are taken to task for not having got him off the road earlier. It'd be great if more "stingers"? (the spiked strips they can flick across the path of speeding car to spike tyres) could be quickly employed - but not always possible I guess. I'm with the cops on this one - damned if they do and damned if they don't, poor sods.
IMO, Police would not give serious consideration to abandoning chases, for the simple reason that it would send a completely untenable message to criminals.
That is, do your crime, and speed off in a stolen car.
Do any other countries have a "no pursuit" strategy?
Entirely agree with this sentiment.If police had a policy of non pursuit the consequences would be far worse than they have been up to now.
A free for all would most probably ensue...not just for criminals leaving the scene of a crime ,but for all the car hoons out there who take malicious pleasure in disrupting traffic on our streets
Time to ask ourselves this simple question..if my loved ones were in the carnage caused by this most recent example.What would I want the legislators to do about it?
Time to bring back the death penalty...a speeding car is potentially more lethal than a speeding bullet.If there is a live body to be hanged ..hang them high
Cant beleive how this issue has stirred my emotions! ..must be a reaction to grief..
"I can see he's done wrong but (stealing a car is) a petty little crime," she told Radio 3AW.
a speeding car is potentially more lethal than a speeding bullet
"Yes, Justin may have a little bit to do with it but ... you know."
What report was that?
7PM? ..could have been the ABC news or SBS.
Details ,please
Its a less newsworthy show on channel 10, but the interview was quite good.
N.T
Did anyone watch the 7pm report tonight and see them interview the civil libertarian lawyer? Anyone agree or disagree with his views?
N.T
What was the general jist of what the bloke was talking about N.T. ?
Thanks for the expo on the actual report,N T
IMO ..the issue is one of clarity.We all NEED TO KNOW..
The police need to know the black and white of the issue.(So they can make the split second decisions required when there is no time for indecision)
.AND... the speeders need to know the outcomes of their actions.I have expressed my opinion on that already..
The community ,as a whole need to know they have some safety on the road...that's you and me ,mate .and your mum ,dad ,sister brother ,lover ,wife..
What's the penalty for refusing to blow in the bag ?
Perhaps it should be the same in relation to refusing police request to stop.
What's the penalty for refusing to blow in the bag ?
Perhaps it should be the same in relation to refusing police request to stop.
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