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You need to look into oral tradition more in terms of these types of societies.
Expert scholars? The ones that share your opinion?.
You are intellectually dishonest throwing the blanket statement "experts" ............
I have provided compelling evidence already about the crucifixion and resurrection. I've mentioned disciples willing to die for testimony that they KNEW to be true (not thought was true). Manuscripts written in the lifetime of eye-witnesses who could refute this if untrue. Writing by eye-witnesses so close to the events compared to anything else in antiquity (Buddha was about 600 years later I think).
5,200 Greek manuscripts, an abundance of evidence also showing myth was not added later, the original was of a supernatural Jesus, not a natural one.
You are using a different standard if evidence to other events in antiquity if you conclude that the resurrection did not occur. If you are being consistent then you cannot say that Buddha existed, or Alexander the Great. In fact there is more evidence for Christ than for Caesar (about 10 manuscript).
Luckadoo I think it was. The lawyer of 255 consecutive murder acquittals investigated the evidence from a court of law standard and concluded by this standard it is beyond any doubt at all.
But hey your faceless "scholars" all think otherwise lol.
I can understand the logic that because a document exists it doesn't prove the events are real. I agree.
I'm going to take a bit of a different direction here.
Who believes that Jesus existed as a man?
I ask this because no serious historian believes that Jesus did not exist at all. Heck, even Dawkins back flipped on this one and admitted that it is beyond doubt.
So do people believe that Jesus existed as a man or not?
I can understand the logic that because a document exists it doesn't prove the events are real. I agree.
I'm going to take a bit of a different direction here.
Who believes that Jesus existed as a man?
I ask this because no serious historian believes that Jesus did not exist at all. Heck, even Dawkins back flipped on this one and admitted that it is beyond doubt.
So do people believe that Jesus existed as a man or not?
But back to my question...
I'll add my thoughts.
It boggles the mind that every serious historian and most others will accept as a fact that Jesus the man existed using the historical evidence.
YET say that those same historical documents are unreliable when a Christian makes a claim about Jesus. (Oh they are just old papers and don't prove that any of the events happened - which includes Jesus existing)
Completely inconsistent and also totally absurd.
You can't have your cake and eat it too and anyone who can't see this inconsistency shouldn't even be having a discussion like this.
It's been good chatting, appreciate all your contributions. *shakes hands*
MULTAN: A cleric cut his wife into pieces on Wednesday for refusing to wear a veil and sending their children to school, police said.
They said the body was recovered from near their house. They said they found his confession on the body and had also recovered the weapon he had used.
The body has been handed over to the family following a post-mortem examination.
A case has been registered against the confession-killer, who the police said had been missing.
Ahmad Aziz, father of the deceased Farzana Bibi, 36, said that she married Muhammad Sharif, 42, a resident of Bakkhal Bhir in Mumtazabad Colony.
They had three children.
Aziz said that Sharif led prayers at the neighbourhood mosque and also gave Quran lessons at their home. He said
Sharif was short-tempered and would often beat up Farzana Bibi. He had been telling her to cover her face when she left the house.
Aziz said Farzana Bibi wore an abaya (gown), but did not want to cover her face.
He said they often quarreled over the matter.
Police said Aziz was informed about the incident by the police shortly after they found Farzana Bibi’s body. Police said it had first been seen by a neighbour, who informed the police.
Police said in his note, Sharif had confessed to killing Farzana Bibi.
A measles outbreak linked to a Texas megachurch amplifies the public health concern for those who opt out of immunizations.
A Texas megachurch has shifted its stance on immunization, following a measles outbreak among its faithful.
At least 20 members of the Eagle Mountain International Church in North Texas have been diagnosed with measles after a few members of the congregation traveled abroad on a mission trip and contracted the disease. The church is part of Kenneth Copeland Ministries, which has advocated abstaining from vaccinations and immunizations for fear they cause autism.
Pastor Terri Copeland Pearsons, daughter of Kenneth Copeland, announced in a sermon last week that the church will be hosting vaccination clinics and urged her congregation to attend.
Health officials report that exposure to the virus in foreign countries by unvaccinated people is one of the most common ways for outbreaks to occur in the U.S., but that the virus is otherwise largely avoidable due to regular vaccination schedules for children.
In response to the outbreak, Texas remains under an alert issued by the Texas Department of State Health Services, which urges people without a measles vaccine to obtain one.
Coincidently, the outbreak is occurring during National Immunization Awareness Month.
During the initial outbreak, the church released a statement to its faithful, saying their position “regarding dealing with any medical condition involving yourself or someone in your family is to first seek the wisdom of God, His Word, and appropriate medical attention from a professional that you know and trust. Apply wisdom and discernment in carrying out their recommendations for treatment.”
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