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Religion IS crazy!

Value Collector said:
In regards to the morality of the burka, the factors that are relevant are the principle of personal freedom, eg you shouldn't take someone's right to wear it unless it is causing real harm.

So what is the real harm of someone walking down the street naked ?

Why is that banned ?
 
I am also not cool with the government going around and destroying personal freedoms any more than they already do in the name of security.

I haven't seen you complain about the metadata legislation which intrudes on the personal freedoms of all of us, so why are you so keen to defend a small minority who want to hold on to bizarre superstitions and promote distrust in the community ?
 

Hey the question asked and I candidly provided the answer. Everyone is a potential criminal in the eyes of the other, but criminals do use camouflage to conceal their identity and now we are bigots and xenophobes if we stare at someone wearing a sack head to toe it would have to be a must have fashion for armed robberies and the like..... someone with hoody and a gun bulging out of the side pockets ain't gonna cut it in the obscuration stakes these days.

I'm sure there are criminal acts going on here with people donned in the burqa. Didn't some woman back a few years in Adelaide conceal her identity to gain a drivers licence for her muslim friend/relly?

The courts probably mandate that burka crimes be sealed from public scrutiny to avoid hate retaliation, for the good of the community of course. Remember the Carnita Matthews case in Sydney?
 

I think we need to change the media too. We need to show our tolerance and embrace the diversity by insisting serials, movies, daytime TV panels, QANDA, etc are representative of our roots ..... take Sunrise for instance perhaps a full blood aborigine in floral dress as host, a 3rd gen Italian lineage socialite as her sidekick, along with her lesbian Jewish wife, an Indian migrant weathergirl, news from Hollywood a transgender African American, technology guru an Iranian woman with trench coat, glasses and nihab, and the entertainment talking head an aging New Zealander with a razor haircut doubling as the token male.
 
so why are you so keen to defend a small minority who want to hold on to bizarre superstitions and promote distrust in the community ?

Society is made up of lots of minorities, we are all a minority in some way, and I don't think just because you are in a minority your freedoms should be open for seizure.

I am an atheist, atheists could be considered a minority group, I don't want my freedoms infringed just because some larger group thinks my personal freedom is worth less because we are a minority, so I am not going to infringe on other minority groups, its pretty simple, you know the old rule "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

I would also defend the right of Catholics and Jews to wear their clothing, their cults superstitions are no less bizarre.

Not to mention as I said before, I don't want to cause polarisation of the our society.
 
So you think everyone should be welcome?

I think we should have an immigration policy, I have no idea on what the correct number should be, but it should be open for people of all backgrounds to apply.


Or are you just trying to make me out as a racist?

Maybe you are maybe you aren't, I noticed your sarcastic remark mentioned Indians, Sri Lankans, Nigerians, Somalians, Syrians, Iranians, by making the sarcastic comment aren't you trying to point out that you actually don't think its a good Idea to get immigrants from those countries?

Maybe its just a coincidence that all the countries you listed have mainly brown populations, maybe you accidently left out all the mainly white countries.

I guess it sort of gives the impression that you are ok with white immigration, but you find the Indians, Sri Lankans, Nigerians, Somalians, Syrians, Iranians a bit off putting.
 
Society is already polarised by religion.

Get rid of that instead of pandering to it, and perhaps we call all start working together.

not anywhere near as polarised as it could be, there is a large portion of the religious population that is gradually becoming secular, if you start making them feel they are under attack they retreat back into their mob.

You can see it happening even with Christians in the USA, who are not actually even being attacked, they whip themselves up into a frenzy, You can choose to win the Battle or win the War, Battles are won by force, but long term the only way to win a war is to win hearts and minds.
 
You can see it happening even with Christians in the USA.

What's happening? I have religious nut friends in the USA ..I would hate them to be treated as a minority given they are the true believers.... that God lives in Oklahoma..ish. Good honest people who have no time whatsoever for confessed non Christians; you can't get anymore salt of the earth than that VC. BTW what is the punishment for making out you are a Christian in deep south USA?
 

Of course you can't help being so candid when such a question is ask Win some and lose a couple VC?

Another question: Does the burqa commit crimes or is it the people that commit crimes? We know from the yanks that gun don't kill people, it's people that kill people and so everyone ought to carry one or two to not be kill by people... just maybe by their kids looking for change in mummy's purse.

Googled Carnita Matthews... btw, isn't that an Anglo name? What is she doing driving when I thought women in burqa aren't allowed to do those modern day stuff.

Anyway, crazies and criminals come in all dress code. A few years ago some dude was killed in a fight over a parking spot in Bankstown. Killed when the driver he peed off got out and smack her high heel against his head. And don't mess with Asians either, they're usually unarmed but could be extremely dangerous (tag line from a Brandon Lee movie)
 
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