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A young child is dead. No need to celebrate like you've just won the Ashes because an Aussie didn't murder him. SICK taste dude.
 
UBIQUITOUS said:
A young child is dead. No need to celebrate like you've just won the Ashes because an Aussie didn't murder him. SICK taste dude.
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I agree. I can't begin to imagine the grief and anguish of his parents, or what the child may have gone through prior to his death.
 

SICK
 
Ah well, looks like I lose a coke.

Had a bet on the parents.
 
Almost pity that Australians are not hard nosed and eager to make demonstration and make big noise about some things as Muslims or Indians do.

We should also demand national apology on Prime Minister level.

But we won’t and as we all know some mud will stick and we will be labelled for many decades to come as racist country.
Pity, we just forgot how to stand up for ourselves. Probably side effect of lay back, easy going attitude.

If we are so bad, why don’t they all pack up and go to their non-racial country with mere 9 casts and some skin colour driven issues?
 

Dear Happy

A debate is always good so long it considers the spirit and not personal .

The killing of any one including a young toddler is highly sickening. It is simply an act of barbarism and let us not mix it up with racism row. It is more sickening now as the killer used to stay in the same address with the boy and comes from the victim's own nation. A murder is a murder and a criminal act no matter why or who did it.

Now without going into the debate of racism may I bring your attention to one minor thing as you have used Muslims or Indians. Essentially you have identified Muslims are not Indians ! I do not blame you or your lack of awareness.

However for your own understanding please note , India not only the largest democratic country in the world, it has the second largest Muslim population in the world. India has true secularism no matter what some fanatics from Mumbai label.

It is India where 5% of parliament seats are reserved for Christians and 25% or more seats are reserved for people coming from lower caste (Before some one jumps into conclusion on casteism and racisms being same words).

India has produced three Muslim Presidents and all of them had Ph Ds. India until recently had its Head of Nuclear Science and Atomic Energy occupied by a Muslim. If you do some research on him, you will notice his patriotism for India and feeling as an Indian is more than many Hindus from India.

A Muslim woman in India has more rights and privileges than a Muslim woman has in Saudi Arabia, Iraq or Pakistan .

India has 15 written languages and scripts (not coloquial languages) accepted by its constitution. English (even it is in Archaic form since British left 1947) is widely spoken and accepted. See the call centres even we do not like the accent !!

India had a woman PM and now has a woman as President.

I think lot of the participants in this thread have used the word casteism and racism in the same way. I am not entering into either of the debate as any 'ism' is wrong.

Bottom line is : a Muslim can be an Indian, an Indian could be a Muslim but neither all Muslims are Indians, nor all Indians are Muslims.
 
It would appear that all posters would agree that racism is endemic in all countries and that India is no exception.

Unfortunately The Times of India fell into the trap of convenient racist headlines, when the toddler went missing in Melbourne.

After the truth has come out of the alleged perpetrator being Indian their disgraceful headline link
"Indian toddler found dead, police clueless
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has been changed retrospectively to
Indian toddler found dead in Australia, autopsy inconclusive
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Let us hope they will be more careful in future in inflaming tensions between a country like Australia which has welcomed many fine Indian migrants and India, a deeply divided country along racial and other lines.

Thankfully no Australian mainstream newspaper would stoop to such populist effluvium and publish such inflammatory comment about a friendly country.

gg
 

GG

Indian English is not the same as proper English (or Australian English). "Clueless" may actually mean that the police do not have clues. Remember when I was traveling there and asking directions and they would say to me "Can you speak English please"
 
Julia said:
I see that your absence has not brought about any modification of your insensitivity.
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On the contrary I'm very sensitive Julia. Sensitive to ticklish spots, fire, glass sharp objects etc. etc.
 

Thats a reasonable statement gooner, I'll check it out and apologise if I'm incorrect. Thanks for the wise comment.

gg
 
Miner said:
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India has produced three Muslim Presidents and all of them had Ph Ds. ....
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Wander why then first comment on any death or attack on them is labelled as race motivated even before investigation is concluded?

This crap should be stopped as it is highly damaging.

On the other hand if it will make them go or not come, we will have more room for refugees.
 
Happy said:
On the other hand if it will make them go or not come, we will have more room for refugees.
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Why would you want the Indians to "go or not come"?

As far as I can tell, they are industrious, courteous and doing their best to make a real contribution to this country. If they have come here legally, and largely to acquire an education, then best of luck to them. It's better than asylum seekers who scuttle their boats in the hope of acquiring a free pass to Australia.
 
Julia said:
Why would you want the Indians to "go or not come"?

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I leave it up to them to decide.



http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1025878/gurshan-knocked-out-by-opening-door


From one extreme conclusion like racism to another smelling like unbelievable story.

Wander why whoever came up with racist comment isn’t taken to court for defamation?
 
Happy said:
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Wander why whoever came up with racist comment isn’t taken to court for defamation?
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Great idea Australia sues an Indian journo for defamation of nation's character. What do you propose as a penalty? 1000 rupees to be divided among 22million Australians. Do you think we can all squeeze into the courthouse?

You're funny if nothing else! Thanks for the tears of laughter.
 
Well put, Julia;
in every sufficiently large group of people you have any character trait distributed in a bell curve: A few saints, a few sinners, and the majority fair to middling in between. To draw conclusions from the behaviour of a few individuals, and generalise them across a race, is stupid in the extreme.
But it sells papers, excites emotions, and lures the trolls out of the woodwork, peddling their stupidity with religious zeal...

Is it worth speaking out against it? I hope it is - but wouldn't bet on it succeeding to a large extent.
 
pixel said:
in every sufficiently large group of people you have any character trait distributed in a bell curve: A few saints, a few sinners, and the majority fair to middling in between.
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what if that character trait is criminality / extremism?

pixel said:
To draw conclusions from the behaviour of a few individuals, and generalise them across a race, is stupid in the extreme.
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agreed, but how about in the case of religion / philosophy? if society says its ok to cut peoples hearts out to appease the sun god then does this excuse the individuals behaviour?
 
Happy said:
On the other hand if it will make them go or not come, we will have more room for refugees.
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Happy said:
I leave it up to them to decide.
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Your second comment is at odds with your first which clearly suggests you have a preference for Indians to make way for refugees.

I strongly dislike generalisations about anything, but when it's about a whole race of people it's especially unpleasant.

And btw, Happy, I think you mean "wonder" where you say "wander".
"Wander" is to roam.
Your own use of English does sometimes make me wonder if English is not in fact your own first language.
 
rofl....check the chat sidebar on the Cricket website.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/lc

There is a ball-by-ball update of the Oz v NZ 50 over-game, and in the chat sidebar various Indian, Australian and Pakistani fans are racially vilifying each other and their respective nations in a very unsavoury, but quite entertaining manner
 
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