Harro said:Would I be better of buying $1000.00 worth of shares per month at a cost of $390 or banking $1000.00/mth and making one purchase per year of $12000.00/yr at a cost of $60.
SHeeze Realist,Realist said:Despite the higher brokerage fees which you should always look to reduce.
Buying 12 different shares each month for 12 months in a row is better than waiting 12 months and buying 1 share.
Because you are diversifying - protecting yourself by investing in different sectors. Your one share may die in the ass, the chances of 12 shares all dying in the ass is much smaller. The chances of you picking a real winner that triples is low if you have 1 share, if you have 12 you've got a much better chance of picking a real winner.
You are also buying more shares when the ASX is lower, and less when it is higher which is great - because say the ASX roars up 30% in 12 months then you buy and it drops 15% you're probably down 15%. But had you bought at regular intervals over the year you'd have got shares before they went up 30%, then some others before they went up 25%, then some others before they went up 20% etc. And only some that dropped 15%.
It is hard to pick highs and lows, infact almost impossible to get it perfect, regularly buying a small amount of shares means you are guaranteed to get some when it is at a low, and you only buy some (not all) when it is dangerously high.
Bobby said:SHeeze Realist,
You know little about trading stocksyet your advising ?
You only joined this site in June this year.
You have over a 1000 posts so now your title is Veteran member.
You must understand that new members will just look at your rank & may well do what you recommend,.
Please consider this.
Bob.
Hi Julia,Julia said:Hello Bob,
What is about Realist's suggestions that you disagree with?
Julia
Bobby said:Hi Julia,
Diversification without directive for one.
Bob.
Harro said:Hi all, new to this website/forum and hoping I could get some questions answered for starting out in Trading (buy and selling shares) in the stockmarket.
Before I start with my questions, I feel it is important to convey where im coming from and my investment goals.
I wish to start with $5000.00 to invest in one stock with a long term out look,
and continuing to purchase new shares either once a month or yearly. I can buy $1000.00 worth of shares per month or $12000.00 per year.
Assuming the cost of buying and selling shares (brockerage cost) is $30 per transaction (trade) my initial entry would be $30 and 12 transactions(trade) a year would be $390 ($360/yr).
So my initial question is
Would I be better of buying $1000.00 worth of shares per month at a cost of $390 or banking $1000.00/mth and making one purchase per year of $12000.00/yr at a cost of $60.
I know the answer would depend on what shares I buy and weather of not they go up or down in price but im looking at long term (say 10 years+) historically share prices go up over the long term so Id say its pretty low risk.
The difficulty is how much would they have to go up averaged out over 10years to cover the brockerage costs of buying monthy and the same of buying yearly and determining what would give me the better return.
Any advise would be greatfull
Once I figure out my best option I will be asking even more newbie questions for getting started at the begining. Questions like, opening a trading account, how to open a brocking account and who with. Heck im so newbie I dont even know the questions to ask yet..lol
nizar said:Realist wat were u thinking...
Even your idol Warren Buffet is against diversification
Snake Pliskin said:Realist is not one to be trusted over trading, though Ben Graham rubbish he does tout.
Snake
Bobby said:Hi Julia,
Diversification without directive for one.
Bob.
You guys do not even understand the mere basics of investing. Quite sad.
Greetings Snake,Snake Pliskin said:Harro,
Full of great or grateful?
Above you mention trading first, then investing. Which is it and why? answering that question may involve some reading.
Bobby`s comments are apt; confirmed by Nizar.
Realist is not one to be trusted over trading, though Ben Graham rubbish he does tout.
Snake
Realist said:I am no trader, but this thread did say investing.
Snake, do you think buying 1 share for $12,000 is better than 12 diversified sahres for $1000 when investing? And why?
No worries Bob.Yep Nizar is on track ~
Off topic: Our talk on the third way will continue, my turn soon.
Realist said:Diversification without directive is alot safer than trading without directive.
Topic closed. I win!!
Yep you sure win the ( top rabbit ) award for that statment !Realist said:Diversification without directive is alot safer than trading without directive.
Topic closed. I win!!
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