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I doubt the Traverston dam would totally mitigate Gympie and Maryborough on the Mary River from flood damage any more than the Wivenhoe dam will totally mitigate Brisbane form flood damage.
What sort of area are we talking about relative to Brisbane as a whole?The Premier announced this afternoon that the flood level through Brisbane CBD is likely now to exceed the 1974 levels. And the BOM say a wet few months are ahead.
Ironically, the dam operators are going to flood the Brisbane River. Hope the good people of Brizzy aren't affected greatly.Building dams is often an unpopular decision at the time. However, those whose lives have been spared ravaging flood waters by the dams would possibly far out number the few that were initially affected. It would be politically a tough thing to do - that is until the floods come.
Anyone know where to find info on road closures on the Sydney to gold coast run?
The wife and kids drove up to the gold coast last week to visit relations, so now I am thinking of flying up and driving them all back. Don't want to get stuck somewhere along the way though.
Ironically, the dam operators are going to flood the Brisbane River. Hope the good people of Brizzy aren't affected greatly.
'Catastrophic'
Professor Chanson says the dam operators have been progressively releasing water from the dam to prevent it filling.
"If the Wivenhoe become full up to the stage where the water in the reservoir is very close to the crest of the dam, it would mean a situation where the operators of the dam would have to open fully the gate of the spillway," he said.
"Anything coming into the reservoir would have to be immediately discharged."
He says it would be catastrophic if water made it over the top of the dam wall.
"The Wivenhoe Dam is not designed to be overtopped, it is what we call an embankment dam. And if water was to flow over the top of the crest of the dam, there would be a very high risk of erosion of the dam wall and ultimately failure of the dam," he said.
"If the water was to spill over the top of the crest of the dam we would look at the failure of the dam on the possible complete emptying of the reservoir into the Brisbane River with deadly consequences for the people living downstream."
But he says there are a number of safeguards to prevent such an event.
"The first one is the primary spillway, the main spillway you have seen on the TV news," he said.
"That is the location where they are currently controlling the downstream release of water into the Brisbane River.
"But they also have a secondary emergency spillway where if the water were to reach dangerous levels it would start to provide further release from the dam wall."
The Bureau of Meteorology says major flood levels in Brisbane are likely to be reached on Wednesday afternoon.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/11/3110758.htm
I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Traverston dam would totally solve the flooding issues of Gympie and Maryborough, however it is deceptive and dishonest to indicate that it would have had no impact. Government modelling suggests that the river peak could have been up to 4 metres lower with the dam and using controlled release. Environmental issues are another story.
Try telling the people of Theodore who at the moment are currently cleaning dead animals, rotten food, sludge and broken memories out of their homes, that a Nathan Dam (with a capacity of 1,000,000 megalitres) would have been no assistance to them on the Dawson River a fortnight ago. This dam has been "in the pipeline" for over 25 years and has been delayed because of Boggomoss Snails, sacred aboriginal sites, rare frogs and the latest was the potential impact on the Great Barrier Reef. Ironically I see on the TV one of the conservationists that fought against the dam was saying last week what a disaster the Fitzroy flood has been for tourism, commercial fishing and the marine life on the reef.
Duckman
Flood Mitigation During a flood situation, Wivenhoe Dam is designed to hold back a further 1.45 million megalitres as well as its normal storage capacity of 1.15 million megalitres. Floods may still occur in the Ipswich and Brisbane areas but they will be rarer in occurrence. Wivenhoe’s flood control facility, together with the existing flood mitigation effect of Somerset Dam, will substantially reduce the heights of relatively small floods.
It is anticipated that during a large flood similar in magnitude to that experienced in 1974, by using mitigation facility within Wivenhoe Dam, flood levels will be reduced downstream by an estimated 2 metres.
Full supply level or 100 percent capacity (in the water level analysis) is indicative of the optimum level intended for town water supply, and does not take flood mitigation levels into account. http://www.seqwater.com.au/public/catch-store-treat/dams/wivenhoe-dam
Anyone know where to find info on road closures on the Sydney to gold coast run?
The wife and kids drove up to the gold coast last week to visit relations, so now I am thinking of flying up and driving them all back. Don't want to get stuck somewhere along the way though.
It is a fact that the water stored in Wivenhoe dam is water that would otherwise have flowed downstream.I understand your point Duckman, but the Wivenhoe principle is to minimise or negate many low level flood events. The problem is that how big is big enough to be safe.
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PS: Is the premier worried about a possible dam burst? She looks grim saying (on the TV news) these releases are not optional, they are necessary to operate the dam as it was designed and to protect the people down stream.
Given the Bureau of Meteorology rainfall outlook (Jan-Mar), a decision could have been made to let some of the normal storage go in anticipation of higher than normal rainfall.Trying to lessen the overall severity of flooding through manipulation of water release rates.
All the best, pedalofogus. My sympathies are with you. Lying awake and listening to that incessant thundering of torrential rain is a sound I could live without for the rest of my life. Hope it turns out to be less serious than it's looking for Ipswich at present.Wivenhoe is at 190% now, and we are all worried about what will happen if it overflows.
I live in ipswich and have just finished helping a few friends clear out there houses as they are about to go under. Even though I live in a high area, will certainly sleep with one eye open tonite. I wish all my fellow ipswich and Brisbane residents a safe night
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