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Last night on the ABC a reporter said it was now officially the worst floods ever.
Brisbane would have been flooded if they hadn't put the dam in after the last one to protect the City. The dam is full now so they really need the rain to stop.
(Wikipedia)Considerable development of the state's infrastructure took place during the Bjelke-Petersen era. He was a leading proponent of Wivenhoe and Burdekin Dams, encouraging the modernising and electrifying of the Queensland railway system, and the construction of the Gateway Bridge. Airports, coal mines, power stations, and dams were built throughout the state. James Cook University was established. In Brisbane, the Queensland Cultural Centre, Griffith University, the South East Freeway, and the Captain Cook, Gateway and Merivale bridges were all constructed, as well as the Parliamentary Annexe that was attached to Queensland Parliament House. Bjelke-Petersen was one of the instigators of World Expo 88 (now South Bank Parklands]) and the 1982 Brisbane Commonwealth Games.
The people of Queensland can thank Bjelke-Petersen for his foresight in dam building. Under a Labor government it would never happen. Jo did not worry about the greenies and the NIMBYs.
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...What is going on with the weather??
Peter Garrett stopped the Traverston dam. That probably wouldn't have been finished in time for these floods, but would possibly have saved some of the grief. Any thoughts?
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...The "expert" on ABC radio today was utterly scathing of excessive dam building proposals, he said they absolutely cannot work in the instance of a flood such as the one in QLD.
After attacks from Warren Truss, leader of the Nationals who didn't want the dam built.
As I said times are different.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/11/2739725.htm
"I have based my proposed decision on the science presented to me, and the science shows that this project would have serious and irreversible effects on nationally listed species such as the Australian lungfish, the Mary River turtle and the Mary River cod," Mr Garrett said.
The proposed Traverston Dam had a planned capacity of 153GL, it would have been full prior to this event as almost all of the dams in the SE QLD catchment are already full. The Wivenhoe dams stated capacity is about 1000GL and it is currently at 2000GL, which is probably close to the limits of it's flood mitigation capacity. So if the Traverston Dam had been built it would have been like it wasn't there yesterday.Peter Garrett stopped the Traverston dam. That probably wouldn't have been finished in time for these floods, but would possibly have saved some of the grief. Any thoughts?
Hi.
I think Anna Bligh is showing a responsible forte of leadership in responding to the QLD. flood issues.
These are very trying times and she has responded well.
Cheers
The proposed Traverston Dam had a planned capacity of 153GL, it would have been full prior to this event as almost all of the dams in the SE QLD catchment are already full. The Wivenhoe dams stated capacity is about 1000GL and it is currently at 2000GL, which is probably close to the limits of it's flood mitigation capacity. So if the Traverston Dam had been built it would have been like it wasn't there yesterday.
FYI: the flow rates of rivers is commonly expressed in multiples of Sydney Harbour. 1 Sydney Harbour = ~500GL. The Fitzroy flow rate when Rocky was flooding was around 1.5 Sydney Harbours per day = 750GL/day. That would have fillled an empty Traverston Dam in about 5 hours and a bone dry Wivenhoe Dam to it's current level in about 2.6 days.
RAIN, rain, rain – the Sunshine Coast has seen a lot of it in the past few weeks, and with more expected during the coming months there are fears of a repeat of the record-breaking floods and rainfall of 1893.
Over 24 hours on Sunday and yesterday Peachester had 298mm of rain, its wettest January day since 1974.
But that's nothing compared to 1893, when in 24 hours 907mm was recorded at Crohamhurst.
The epic 1893 floods were a result of extreme rainfall combined with three tropical cyclones which converged on South-East Queensland. The Coast recorded 1715mm in three days, the highest three-day rainfall recorded in Australia.
Long-range forecaster Hayden Walker said we could expect more heavy rain and higher than average cyclone activity in the coming months.
You don't build dams to protect people in the rare instances of flooding. Dry rivers & tributaries during the (most of the time) drier periods will be the result. Man trying to control nature comes back to bite!
The proposed Traverston Dam had a planned capacity of 153GL, it would have been full prior to this event as almost all of the dams in the SE QLD catchment are already full. The Wivenhoe dams stated capacity is about 1000GL and it is currently at 2000GL, which is probably close to the limits of it's flood mitigation capacity. So if the Traverston Dam had been built it would have been like it wasn't there yesterday.
FYI: the flow rates of rivers is commonly expressed in multiples of Sydney Harbour. 1 Sydney Harbour = ~500GL. The Fitzroy flow rate when Rocky was flooding was around 1.5 Sydney Harbours per day = 750GL/day. That would have fillled an empty Traverston Dam in about 5 hours and a bone dry Wivenhoe Dam to it's current level in about 2.6 days.
I agree. And so have various mayors of flooded centres.Hi.
I think Anna Bligh is showing a responsible forte of leadership in responding to the QLD. flood issues.
These are very trying times and she has responded well.
Cheers
That is exactly how I feel. Most of us have life experiences considered both subjectively good or bad. Strangely, people think they are above nature.The weather works in cycles for a reason and many humans fail to grasp that and adjust their circumstances accordingly, especially in the government planning agencies, such as allowing too much urban development in known flood planes without the equal amount of risk management protocols, such as emergency evacuation systems.
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