Petition for regional Qld daylight saving trial - ends 10th November

sails said:

Petition is now closed with 77,074 signatures - by far the biggest when compared with other closed petitions ...

Not a bad result considering it appears the media did not pick this one up to ensure all affected Queenslanders had an opportunity to have their say. I'm guessing that many did not know this petition even existed. We only heard of it a few days ago though an email sent by a friend.

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brilliant job sails !!
sounds like the petition / partition you have when you don't really want a change.

no doubt they'll claim - "see! - the results of the petition soundly rejected it.!"

whatever happened to compulsory voting?
whatever happened to the obvious suspicion that lingers when poorly publicised voting tallies were open to abuse (for anything from voting for Big Brother to Aus Idol to .. Petitions I guess )

anyway - biggest votecount etc - so well done !

btw that applies obviously whoever wins -
hey - that's up to you blokes -
Whiskers, you want to stay in the dark ages that's your prerogative lol.
"you are now entering QLD, please set your watches etcetc" - it's on old joke

PS which is it ? was it?
did a bit of Joh rub off on Queenslanders - or
was it that a bit of Qld rubbed off on Joh? .

as Joh used to say .. " You can lead a horse to drink , but you can't make him water "

(PS I'm orig from rural Qld - you should hear my mum on the subject of Joh lol
speaking of saving DL, - it shone out of his ****)

Whiskers said:

Yes, if only.

Actually, and I guess ironically, considering how Qld is being run lately, I got my particular knowledge of conflict resolution through a government program years ago and the facilitator trainer was a West Australian.

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Was the government programme by any chance the Justice Dept's Mediation Training programme? I did that about ten years ago and the principles you outlined sounded very similar.

All of Australia should be the same time and go forward 2 hours in winter and back two hours in summer. It may be a bit dark for some in the morning, tough.

noirua said:

All of Australia should be the same time and go forward 2 hours in winter and back two hours in summer. It may be a bit dark for some in the morning, tough.

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heck - lets make it 3 and be done with it !! lol

better still 12 hours ! - all year round !!
sleep in the daytime -
work at night be in synch with Europe -
almost no lights to run -
global warming contribution solved - etc

2020hindsight said:

better still 12 hours ! - all year round !!
sleep in the daytime -
work at night, be in synch with Europe -
..
global warming contribution solved - etc

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this is probably counter intuituive -
if 1 hour's DLS saves 8% of our lighting bills -
then surely 12 hours would save 100% !

PS I majored in logic at the "Belfast School for the Wayward Mind".
pilot:- "oops now the third of four engines has gone out and we'll be 6 hours late landing at belfast "
paddy to seamus:- "gee , let's hope the uther one desn't go art as well - else we'll be up here all bludy nite!!"

The shopping hours issue is a classic case of government meddling in the lives of indiviuals where it has no place to do so.

Just be thankful for one thing though, the Qld government is nowhere near as keen on regulations, restrictions, bans and all other such means of controlling the day to day activities of the general public as the Victorian government is.

2020hindsight said:

this is probably counter intuituive -
if 1 hour's DLS saves 8% of our lighting bills -
then surely 12 hours would save 100% !

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I have always thought that there should be 25 hours in each day, thus giving me one extra hours much needed sleep. This would also vary the day so that everyone gets the chance to work during the day and at night.

There would also be a market for 25 hour clocks.

Julia said:

Was the government programme by any chance the Justice Dept's Mediation Training programme? I did that about ten years ago and the principles you outlined sounded very similar.

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No Julia, it was through the QDPI's Landcare Scheme, back in the early 90's. It was a little offshoot of the Property Management Planning program dedicated to selected candidates to train as facilitiators to specialise in Group Facilitiation Conflict Resolution.

The idea was to get some expertise around the country to improve neighbourly relations and cooperation in issues that trancended property boundaries. An important one that is more relevant today is water management.

I am aware of the one you are referring to and no doubt the principles are the same as you mention. The guy who was our trainer worked for an international firm, not sure now whether it was based in WA or just had an office there, but he was of philippines orign I think, but Perth is where he was based at the time. This guy was so intelligent and masterful in 'reading' people and communication and a real character too. It was one of the best experiences of my life.