wayneL
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The English version is sanitized, that's why I said not the English version.
Use a translator. Google Chrome just automatically asks you if you want it translated.
It would have been nicer to provide a dictionary from Urdu to English.
Any way I found the English version of Aljazeera in your link http://english.aljazeera.net/
I think it probably played out in the manner reported.
Which version?
I am so over America and the garbage they come up with.....I hope they go through a bigger economic depression then Japan ever will or has.
I think you may find the the general idea about Al Qaeda deliberately killing many innocent people and Osama being their leader may be close to the truth.Who is to say Bin Laden even did the stuff he did...? I reckon this whole thing is just the US making up crap and lies to justify all the atrocities they inflict on the world. Their claims to Osama being buried at sea and "where not going to show you the photo, take our word for it" is just as ridiculous as the JFK assassination.
The US will have people believe anything so they can have an excuse to cause a war or invade another country. Did you see the size of the place Bin Laden was hiding in. They couldn't have been looking for him for 10 years and not see this huge fortress and not think - "I wonder what this big building is used for".
I see this garbage as either two things - one is for the US to create a new terrorist leader who will all of a sudden come out of the woods and try to avenge Bin Ladens death and will inflict a terrible thing on innocent people and then US will be forced to invade their country - at this stage I am thinking it will be IRAN and the new terrosirt leader will turn out to be one of Bin Laden's sons when he grows up.
My other idea is that the US had stated that the point of their invasion of afghanistan was to find Osama. So now since they have "killed" him they need to get the hell out of Afghanistan surely - but the reason why they have probably made up all this BS is because of the level of debt they are in and they probably can't afford to keep funding this war. As stoopid as Bush was, he managed to spend more money then every president that ever served before him combined and this idiot they have in now has spent more money then every president combined before him including Bush.
I am so over America and the garbage they come up with.....I hope they go through a bigger economic depression then Japan ever will or has.
I think you may find the the general idea about Al Qaeda deliberately killing many innocent people and Osama being their leader may be close to the truth.
Agree with the provide proof point, of course.
On the invasion of Afghanistan, we went in to destroy Al Qaeda who were being harboured and supported by the Taliban. Al Qaeda has been defeated in Afghanistan but we have somehow changed the mission to destroy the Taliban, which is not quite right imo.
However, if we leave now, what happens?
builder, I think we may have went for the right reason. Remember those planes flying in to those buildings? 100s of 1000s? It hasn't been for 'nothing'.If they leave now what happens? It will just be another war America fought and lost where 100s of thousands of their men died for nothing.
It's the religious fundamentalism from the other team that has led to this.oohhhhum just another war over religion for God's sake
USA has 700 military bases around the world, in the cold war era thay have 6 B52 flying 24/7 for 40 years work out the flybuy point there as well as the $$$$$ and this is just one case maybe they realise the bank card is maxed out and time to get out and looking for reasons.
It's the religious fundamentalism from the other team that has led to this.
You'd be speaking Japanese, or dead, if not for the US, Glen.
I've laid a claymore and agree that we should follow the instructions and face it toward the enemy. The rest, well....Unlike the US, Australia has won many wars they went to the aid of for the dopey yanks. I hate the fact they are over in the desert fighting for a war I believe the US government created. I served with one of the engineer soldiers who was killed last year. As disappointing as it is that we seemed to get a lot of hand me down equipment from the US for our military, only people as stoopid as america would need to have the words printed in big letters on their claymore bombs "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY" in case they forget which way to set their bombs.
Those planes going into the buildings....I remember that, but instead of believing the stories the media and the government have us believe, I choose to believe in the scientific evidence that proves that the planes couldn't have brought down buildings of that size the way they did. But the masses are used to believing in stuff they read like some guy called JC - They believe in him without seeing actual proof of a body so I guess the story of Bin Laden's body isn't isn't as ridiculous as the bible.
And I no longer serve in the army but I have been building high rises for the last 6 years and the evidence found at the crash site leaves a lot to wonder about. But just like trading, people are sheep and follow the herd I guess.
After the event, he claimed responsibility. But perhaps you think this was falsified also?Who is to say Bin Laden even did the stuff he did...?
Yes, impossible to disagree with this, especially re Pakistan claiming no knowledge of bin Laden's presence.The US will have people believe anything so they can have an excuse to cause a war or invade another country. Did you see the size of the place Bin Laden was hiding in. They couldn't have been looking for him for 10 years and not see this huge fortress and not think - "I wonder what this big building is used for".
That's a justifiable conclusion. Or it could be much less complicated and simply as it has been presented to us. Most people will form their view re what they believe on the basis of their existing beliefs. e.g. you are clearly unprepared to believe in anything other than ulterior and machiavellian motives on the part of the US.I see this garbage as either two things - one is for the US to create a new terrorist leader who will all of a sudden come out of the woods and try to avenge Bin Ladens death and will inflict a terrible thing on innocent people and then US will be forced to invade their country
Again, an hypothesis which will find favour with many. But how does this stack up against the US administration's avowed intent to stick with their originally planned withdrawal from Afghanistan? Wouldn't they instead have taken the perfect opportunity to say "OK, folks, now we can get the hell out of Afghanistan."?My other idea is that the US had stated that the point of their invasion of afghanistan was to find Osama. So now since they have "killed" him they need to get the hell out of Afghanistan surely - but the reason why they have probably made up all this BS is because of the level of debt they are in and they probably can't afford to keep funding this war.
Really? So you will happily wish misery on all the ordinary Americans who have had no choice about what their politicians decide?I am so over America and the garbage they come up with.....I hope they go through a bigger economic depression then Japan ever will or has.
Don't know. Perhaps nothing more than some American and allied lives are not wasted? Is it at this stage our responsibility what happens?Al Qaeda has been defeated in Afghanistan but we have somehow changed the mission to destroy the Taliban, which is not quite right imo.
However, if we leave now, what happens?
If they leave now what happens? It will just be another war America fought and lost where 100s of thousands of their men died for nothing.
The desire for revenge in almost any form is, I suppose, understandable. But what was the logic here? Why bomb a whole country including thousands of innocent civilians, on the flimsy basis that bin Laden was supposed to be hiding out in some obscure region of the country? It simply made no sense, or if there was some sense, it has eluded me. Happy to be enlightened.builder, I think we may have went for the right reason. Remember those planes flying in to those buildings? 100s of 1000s? It hasn't been for 'nothing'.
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