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Osama Bin Laden Dead?

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Julia said:
Zackly. Where would they have got the original DNA of Osama from anyway so it could be the comparison for that obtained from the freshly killed Osama?

Seem to be a lot of questions.
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There is no original Osama DNA anywhere. Show us!!! This has NEVER been mentioned before. Who ever said they had OBL DNA?????

The more time goes by, the more this looks just plain ridiculous.
 
was there even a real bin laden?

sure he isnt just a boogieman created by the spin doctors to cover there a$$es on stuff they know nothing about? or even scarier....for stuff they know everything about?
 
nunthewiser said:
was there even a real bin laden?

sure he isnt just a boogieman created by the spin doctors to cover there a$$es on stuff they know nothing about? or even scarier....for stuff they know everything about?
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Why kill him when you could capture him, torture him for months on end and extract as much info out of him as you can. Maybe they did take him alive who knows
 
Apparently Osama's mistake was leaving his contact details on the Sony Playstation web site.
 
moXJO said:
Why kill him when you could capture him, torture him for months on end and extract as much info out of him as you can. Maybe they did take him alive who knows
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Makes sense. Announcing he had be buried at sea allows them to say he was buried according to Islamic tradition, within 24 hours, while denying his followers a potential shrine to honor him. However, it would make sense that they have retained his body or his person if still alive.
 
nunthewiser said:
was there even a real bin laden?

sure he isnt just a boogieman created by the spin doctors to cover there a$$es on stuff they know nothing about? or even scarier....for stuff they know everything about?
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Nun, I think his existence has been proven.

I would hate to trivialise what his organisation has done over the past 10 years, including (incidentally) the Bali Bombings. It is inextricably linked.

Plus, the Taliban, who harboured him, have killed thousands of innocent people including 20+ Australian soldiers over the past few years.

I still await proof!
 
moXJO said:
Why kill him when you could capture him, torture him for months on end and extract as much info out of him as you can. Maybe they did take him alive who knows
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I would love to have seen him paraded about, however, that would have just given more time for his followers to get more angry. Lets get this over with!!
 
Re DNA

Sorry, I can't give the link as I am writing from an iPad and don't know how to get the URL from a zine article.

"In Osama's case, the DNA tests don't necessarily involve a reference sample from the man himself (presumably because it's hard to find), but reportedly from his sister who died in Boston recently. Tissue from her body was used to create an extensive reference DNA fingerprint. Because your parents give you some of their DNA, they also give your siblings some of the same genetic code--which is why sibling DNA tests work. They sometimes concentrate on ares of the genome called "junk DNA" which serves no biological function but still gets passed along to offspring. By testing for repeat strands of DNA code in these areas, it's possible to work out if two individuals are related as siblings."
 
Is it usual for a Muslim to be burried at sea I would assume burried in sand would be more their liking.
Wonder how many died digging the grave?
 
kennas said:
And still nothing!!!

It's been world news for hours!

Show me the body!!!
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This is starting to emit the familiar odour of Bulls41t.

The most universally hated man in the western world; so hated that he has been actively hunted and purportedly assassinated, suddenly is accorded the respect of Muslim tradition and buried within 24 hours?

Sans proof the mind can't help but be suspicious that at least some, if not all of this story has been manufactured.
 
I'm waiting for Elton to release a tribute song "Sandals in the Bin"
 
Obama says America can do anything. America can do anything? Ten years of Key Stone Cop antics!! It is typical of American intelligence that Bin Laden has been living in luxurious retirement in Abbottabad for years and the CIA didn't know.

It also boggles the mind that the Pakistani military could have this guy living in their midst and they wouldn't know.


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...en-s-massive-compound-a-mystery-to-neighbours
 
This was a very, very well done hit and kill procedure which, IMO, reflects the intelligence and political savay of President Obama as well as the skills of Navy seals.

Apparently the americans did come across the compound a few years ago and when they saw the size of the place and its design came to the quick conclusion that a very high value target was inside. The clever part was building the compound in one of the most secure areas in Pakistan.

After the CIA finally ticked off the place as Osma's hidey hole (and they actually got a satellite photo of him while exercising !) the question was "How do we take him out ") The militarys first choice was dropping a dozen 2000lb bombs on the compound or sending some drones in.

President Obama (obviously pre-reading the messages from this thread) wanted to make sure there was absolute evidence of death and didn't particularly want to kill half of the town to make sure they got their man. So he decided for a commondo raid.

The Navy built a replica of the compound and went through the process of making absolutely sure how they were going to get Osama.

Onto the raid. A couple of blips (one helicopeter broke down ) and the whole show was watched live by the President and staff. Obama killed. Identified by wife on the site. (Not pretty) Photgraphed. DNA tested against a dead sister.

Body then taken to sea. Washed in accordace with Islamic procedures. Placed in weighted sheet. Prayers said over body by military officer. Gently slid into the sea.

All done. No loose ends. Enough clear evidence to satisy all the doubting Thomases; no unnecessary extra dead bodies; enough respect for the enemy to reduce some inflammation; no shrines.

A clever, well done job.

( NB. Just don't put yourself on the recieving end on an American terrorist note...)

http://www.theage.com.au/world/one-of-the-great-commando-raids-of-all-time-20110503-1e5kr.html
http://www.theage.com.au/world/osam...w-over-what-pakistan-knew-20110503-1e5i2.html
http://www.theage.com.au/world/body-buried-at-sea-in-islamic-way-us-20110502-1e52i.html
 
I noticed the location in Pakistan was Abbottabad.
 
Abbott a bad agree, don't vote for them.

Bin Linder didn't have the net or land line he must have been using a Sat phone I can't see some one like him with out communications to his drones.
The USA did have his Sat ph number and were listening in on the call's when a New York paper published the fact so he gave up that phone, but you have to assume the yanks could track his calls if he didn't leave the compound he must have had a runner with a pocket ful of coins to go to the close Ph Box and ring .
 
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