Opinions/Conspiracies of "those behind the curtain"

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

While it may be a bit too much for some to believe or agree upon, i thought i would start a thread on this.

Slowly i think people are waking up to the fact that world affairs are controlled by a select few people (and no it does not include the USA president).

An good precursor to thsi thread is the movie/doco "Zeitgiest". Its free (legally) on the net so go watch it if you have an interest.

My question is if things like 9/11 etc etc are created by those behind the curtain, then what can we as average people do about it? I have racked my mind for ages and the best i can come up with is "cant beat them, join them theory".

The problem the world has is the vast majority of people (plebs, grunts, peasants, sheeple: names all used for people in this situation) just dont know, and if they do hear about it they either dont care or dont believe it.

It seems to be the small % that know about it but lack the resources to do anything are facing the toughest emotional/psychological conditions.

Any comments appreciated but lets try to keep this thread educated...

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

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While a lengthy article i thought i would take the juicy bits out of it:

No project is more interesting at the moment than a curious project in one of the world’s most remote spots, Svalbard. Bill Gates is investing millions in a seed bank on the Barents Sea near the Arctic Ocean, some 1,100 kilometers from the North Pole. Svalbard is a barren piece of rock claimed by Norway and ceded in 1925 by international treaty (see map).

On this God-forsaken island Bill Gates is investing tens of his millions along with the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto Corporation, Syngenta Foundation and the Government of Norway, among others, in what is called the ‘doomsday seed bank.’ Officially the project is named the Svalbard Global Seed Vault on the Norwegian island of Spitsbergen, part of the Svalbard island group.

In the 1990’s the UN’s World Health Organization launched a campaign to vaccinate millions of women in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines between the ages of 15 and 45, allegedly against Tentanus, a sickness arising from such things as stepping on a rusty nail. The vaccine was not given to men or boys, despite the fact they are presumably equally liable to step on rusty nails as women.

Because of that curious anomaly, Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Roman Catholic lay organization became suspicious and had vaccine samples tested. The tests revealed that the Tetanus vaccine being spread by the WHO only to women of child-bearing age contained human Chorionic Gonadotrophin or hCG, a natural hormone which when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier stimulated antibodies rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy. None of the women vaccinated were told.

Now is it simply philosophical sloppiness? What leads the Gates and Rockefeller foundations to at one and the same time to back proliferation of patented and soon-to-be Terminator patented seeds across Africa, a process which, as it has in every other place on earth, destroys the plant seed varieties as monoculture industrialized agribusiness is introduced? At the same time they invest tens of millions of dollars to preserve every seed variety known in a bomb-proof doomsday vault near the remote Arctic Circle ‘so that crop diversity can be conserved for the future’ to restate their official release?

It is no accident that the Rockefeller and Gates foundations are teaming up to push a GMO-style Green Revolution in Africa at the same time they are quietly financing the ‘doomsday seed vault’ on Svalbard. The GMO agribusiness giants are up to their ears in the Svalbard project.

Indeed, the entire Svalbard enterprise and the people involved call up the worst catastrophe images of the Michael Crichton bestseller, Andromeda Strain, a sci-fi thriller where a deadly disease of extraterrestrial origin causes rapid, fatal clotting of the blood threatening the entire human species. In Svalbard, the future world’s most secure seed repository will be guarded by the policemen of the GMO Green Revolution--the Rockefeller and Gates Foundations, Syngenta, DuPont and CGIAR.

The Svalbard project will be run by an organization called the Global Crop Diversity Trust (GCDT). Who are they to hold such an awesome trust over the planet’s entire seed varieties? The GCDT was founded by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and Bioversity International (formerly the International Plant Genetic Research Institute), an offshoot of the CGIAR.

Please read the whole article here:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

saiter · 9 June 2008

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Buy your own block of land
Start a farm
Build your own power generating device on the land
Step out of the economy and become totally self-sufficient
Learn how to hunt/shoot/defend yourself

That would mean that you'd need to have a large family though, and your life expectancy will plummet. Expect the young and old to die.

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

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I dont see how that would help in these current situations.

Perhaps in the future if things start to get worse at an increasing rate.

There are still plenty of opportunities today to make decent money and live a good capitalist lifestyle, it just depends on your opinions and morals i guess...

Kimosabi · 9 June 2008

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Zeitgeist, The Movie can be seen here ==> http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

A great followup to Zeitgeist is Esoteric Agenda(for some reason it's been pulled from google video, it can be downloaded here on BitTorrent) ==> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4107992/Esoteric_Agenda or watched on Youtube ==> http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...y+to+Mankind's+Survival&search_type=&aq=-1&oq=

There are a ton of great Videos Here(be quick, some of these videos are getting pulled, like WTC7) ==> http://www.kokomotion.com/TWH/docs/expanded.html

saiter · 9 June 2008

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prawn_86 said:
I dont see how that would help in these current situations.

Perhaps in the future if things start to get worse at an increasing rate.

There are still plenty of opportunities today to make decent money and live a good capitalist lifestyle, it just depends on your opinions and morals i guess...

The sooner you become self-sufficient the sooner you knock out those behind the curtain. What is the point of money? I just see it as an exchange of labour and skills. If I can do all the labour and gain all the skills necessary for my survival, then there's no need for money. After all, our aim is to survive.

Kimosabi · 9 June 2008

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prawn_86 said:
I dont see how that would help in these current situations.

Perhaps in the future if things start to get worse at an increasing rate.

There are still plenty of opportunities today to make decent money and live a good capitalist lifestyle, it just depends on your opinions and morals i guess...

The secret to fighting these psychopaths is to stop participating in their system.

Filter their crap poisoned chlorinated/fluoridated water, stop eating their poisoned food(buy organic from your local growers, or better still, grow your own Fruit and Veges), stop taking their crap drugs, learn natural healing, herbology and proper nutrition.

Develop a strong like minded group in your community that are prepared to stand up and defend one another.

Learn as much as you can while we still have the Internet. They are trying to shut down the Internet by trying to remove Net Neutrality ==> http://www.savetheinternet.com/

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

Have to say i disagree with both you with what to do...

Saiter,
While my objective is to survive, i really couldnt care less about if i have children or not. The world is overpopulated enough as it is etc etc
I would like to think that my main goal is to have a happy enjoyable life, which for me, means i need money to achieve some of my goals. IE - travel

Kimosabi,
I agree to an extent, but its a matter of what extremes you take it i guess. Personally i do not think that absolutely everything (ie every drug) is manufactured towards "their" means. So i will take things such as antibiotics occasionally (like once a year) if i need to.

Water, well i always grew up drinking rain water, but am now in the city so drink water with flouride in it. havnt noticed any effects yet.

Fruit and veg, grew up on a farm where my folks used sprays and chemicals etc and again dont notice any effects (although i have nothing to compare it to). Unfortuantely if you are to feed the world population organic just isnt viable.

Wysiwyg · 9 June 2008

My question is if things like 9/11 etc etc are created by those behind the curtain

Is there a more detailed or specific event or do I have to watch zietgeist to understand "behind the curtain" and etc. etc.?

julius · 9 June 2008

actually, most of the 9/11 conspiracy rubbish was shot to peices by the scientists from Popular Mechanics...

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

Wysiwyg said:
Is there a more detailed or specific event or do I have to watch zietgeist to understand "behind the curtain" and etc. etc.?

Watching Zeitgiest would provide a good overview.

But basically some people argue that 9/11 was deliberatly done by the US in order to pass laws that decrease civilians rights.

prawn_86 · 9 June 2008

julius said:
actually, most of the 9/11 conspiracy rubbish was shot to peices by the scientists from Popular Mechanics...

Care to elaborate?

Links, articles something?

thanks

Kimosabi · 9 June 2008

julius said:
actually, most of the 9/11 conspiracy rubbish was shot to peices by the scientists from Popular Mechanics...

Maybe you should do some research on the people who own Popular Mechanics.

All paths lead to OMFG

Don't believe anything I say, do your own research.

Ignorance is not Bliss...

Wysiwyg · 9 June 2008

prawn_86 said:
Watching Zeitgiest would provide a good overview.

But basically some people argue that 9/11 was deliberatly done by the US in order to pass laws that decrease civilians rights.

The purpose of laws are to assist the orderly interaction of people in societies and to some degree (which is your argument) to control/manipulate the individual.

The further from civilisation one is, the less restriction, infringement and abuse of an individuals inherent human rights is experienced.

Macquack · 9 June 2008

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Kimosabi said:
The secret to fighting these psychopaths is to stop participating in their system.

Filter their crap poisoned chlorinated/fluoridated water, stop eating their poisoned food(buy organic from your local growers, or better still, grow your own Fruit and Veges), stop taking their crap drugs, learn natural healing, herbology and proper nutrition.

Develop a strong like minded group in your community that are prepared to stand up and defend one another.

Learn as much as you can while we still have the Internet. They are trying to shut down the Internet by trying to remove Net Neutrality ==> http://www.savetheinternet.com/

I agree with most of what you post Kimosabi.
So, dont get me wrong, BUT what sort of pot do you smoke : natural or hydroponic?

Wysiwyg · 9 June 2008

Just to add ... there are some serious dick heads in society that know jack **** about anything and fling their dung around just to see their existance is acknowledged.

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Kimosabi · 9 June 2008

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Macquack said:
I agree with most of what you post Kimosabi.
So, dont get me wrong, BUT what sort of pot do you smoke : natural or hydroponic?

I don't smoke anything, I've just done hours and hours of research.

We are lied to about just about everything.

I'd love for someone to explain to me why it is that I can go to the Perth Mint and Buy a $50 Gold Coin which IS Legal Tender for $1000 of plastic money.

knock, knock, knock, hello, is their anybody in there, does anyone else see a problem here, wakey, wakey...

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