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Explaining this, it comes down to existing transmission combined with Victoria being the most difficult state to do with renewables on account of climate. Plus it would seem logical that it's reasonably accessible to a capital city without being in it.Best and most obvious location = east of Melbourne connecting to to the existing 500kV network.
Absolutely.the variables used in the GENCOST report can be altered to produce some very differing results.
Some real numbers for SA.Your figure of 46% "hangers on" is intriguing, could you expand on that a bit, we need to know who the "bloodsuckers" are.
ABC....CSIRO chief executive says Peter Dutton's comments on energy report 'corrode public trust in science'
CSIRO chief executive says Peter Dutton's comments on energy report 'corrode public trust in science'
CSIRO CEO Dr Doug Hilton is urging politicians not to undermine scientists in the energy debate, after finding himself in the political firing line.www.abc.net.au
I guess that would be true if one regards politics and economics as science.CSIRO chief executive says Peter Dutton's comments on energy report 'corrode public trust in science'
CSIRO chief executive says Peter Dutton's comments on energy report 'corrode public trust in science'
CSIRO CEO Dr Doug Hilton is urging politicians not to undermine scientists in the energy debate, after finding himself in the political firing line.www.abc.net.au
I guess that would be true if one regards politics and economics as science.
I don't recall Dutton questioning physics, electrical engineering theory, network theory or materials science.
Mick
Maybe, but scientific and engineering knowledge are required in order to work out how much engineering projects cost.
I'd rather trust a baker to know how much a "quality" loaf of bread costs than an accountant...
He didn't write the report himself I'm sure.Then you had better not trust a molecular and cellular biologist to answer questions about nuclear power plants
Rubbish you have failed to debate the points I put up instead ramble about me and my beliefs both of which you know nothing of.
I am starting to wonder if you have ever seen a power station.
Hey, you came out well in that photo sp.This is all you need to run a thermal Power Station, you probably have one as well.
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This is all you need to run a thermal Power Station, you probably have one as well.
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Maybe start a thread on decarbonising the hazardous sites, could be interesting, we might learn something.
Writing permits on operational steam plant, was just part of the duties, shutdowns were easy, as the plant was off.
The engineers never put their hand up, to take over permits. Lol
Sounds like you've never been in a major thermal station.
The control room personel write all the permits and carry out all the isolations, for all disciplines and all contractors, from 330kv, to 20Mpa live stream and everything in between. Lol.
But it was a great job, never a dull moment.
‘Puerile nuclear’ debate makes us look like fools. What will our allies think?
In opposing Peter Dutton’s proposal for a pro-nuclear national policy, the Albanese government has exposed itself as hopelessly ignorant of overseas trends in nuclear power. This is most apparent when we view the politics of our two AUKUS partners, the UK and US.
Along with 13 countries of the European Union, the UK is part of a “pro-nuclear bloc” working towards implementation of nuclear energy as a major part of their energy strategies. A statement released in March called for stronger EU policies on nuclear energy, urging EU chiefs in Brussels to recognise the importance of nuclear power in the energy mix, and invest in further concrete projects and funding.
A bipartisan approach to nuclear energy has become apparent in the UK, with the then opposition leader, Sir Keir Starmer, calling for nuclear power to be a critical part of the UK’s energy mix. He laid out Labour Party policy to push forward nuclear as a way of boosting energy security, cutting costs for consumers and creating jobs.
Meanwhile, the now vanquished Conservative Party also firmed up its support for nuclear power. Whereas two years ago former prime minister Rishi Sunak told his citizens that renewables were the solution to climate change, in January he spelt out a pro-nuclear government position. He said the government’s latest support for the nuclear industry was “the next step in our commitment to nuclear power, which puts us on course to achieve net zero by 2050 in a measured and sustainable way”.
Sunak went on to say: “Nuclear is the perfect antidote to the energy challenges facing Britain – it’s green, cheaper in the long term and will ensure the UK’s energy security for the long term”.
Looking ahead five years, UK nuclear policy is now set by policies of the new Labour government, as laid out in pre-election documents. These state a goal for clean power by 2030, utilising a list of green power technologies together with nuclear power.
Britain has had nuclear power stations since 1956 and Starmer is not treading softly on nuclear. His policy states: “Labour will end a decade of dithering that has seen the Conservatives duck decisions on nuclear power. We will ensure the long-term security of the sector, extending the lifetime of existing plants.” He goes on to say new nuclear power stations and small modular reactors will play an important role in helping the country achieve energy security and clean power, while securing thousands of good, skilled jobs.
In congratulating Starmer on becoming PM, Dutton said “there is much Australia can learn” from the UK’s nuclear policy.
What’s important from Australia’s point of view is that recognition of the need for increasing nuclear power in the UK economy is politically bipartisan and has progressed well beyond the puerile name-calling and cartoon pictures of three-eyed fish, which have characterised our local debate during the past month.
Looking to our other AUKUS partner, the US Senate last month overwhelmingly voted (88-2) for new legislation to accelerate the permitting and creation of new incentives for advanced nuclear reactor technologies. This legislation is highly significant to our local debate in that it too embraces bipartisan support, illustrated by a declaration from the Senate committee chair, Democrat senator Tom Carper, who described it as “a major victory for our climate and American energy security”. A high-ranking Republican member of that same committee observed that “congress worked together to recognise the importance of nuclear energy to America’s future and got the job done”. It is expected that President Joe Biden will swiftly sign this legislation into US law.
Our AUKUS partnership, with its collaboration on nuclear-powered submarines, also addresses two other objections frequently raised against nuclear power in Australia; they being the lack of a qualified workforce and the question of storage of nuclear waste. Both these matters will be resolved as part of the military alliance and hence need not be an impediment to the development of civilian nuclear power.
Within Australia, our government’s contributions to such debate are characterised by Anthony Albanese saying nuclear energy will “drive up power prices, lead to more energy insecurity and lead to less jobs being created”. Likewise, Treasurer Jim Chalmers has said “it might be the dumbest policy ever put forward by a major party”. It appears that the uninformed and myopic views of our present government leaders are seriously lagging behind policies and legislation supported by both sides of the political divide in our AUKUS partners, countries with whom we aspire to work with as equals.
A prerequisite to such a partnership will presumably be an ability to conduct adult conversations on energy matters affecting our industry, trade and foreign policy for the rest of this century. Or perhaps this doesn’t matter to our leaders in Canberra?
Michael Asten is a retired professor of geophysics. He is a regular speaker on natural cycles of climate change and options for energy security.
Not everyone is as ridiculously obstinate as Australia, we may end up either the last bastion of stupidity, or the lucky country that delivered Neverland. Time will tell.Britain's new PM seems to be a supporter of nuclear energy -
Britain has had nuclear power stations since 1956 and Starmer is not treading softly on nuclear. His policy states: “Labour will end a decade of dithering that has seen the Conservatives duck decisions on nuclear power. We will ensure the long-term security of the sector, extending the lifetime of existing plants.” He goes on to say new nuclear power stations and small modular reactors will play an important role in helping the country achieve energy security and clean power, while securing thousands of good, skilled jobs.
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