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Hi All,
Being a relatively young guy (25), I was wondering if you could share a light on one or two things that you've realised have an effect on building wealth.
A key for me is using credit cards. Aside from the annual fee; rewards have paid for trips, and a few gift cards along the way.
If I had of realised this earlier, I would have accumulated far more/ received greater rewards.
The point I'm trying to get at, is there things that you only realised until you were older that you wish you had of known when you were younger?
Any pearls of wisdom or just finance 'hacks' so to speak?
Many thanks,
Id reply but Ive posted many posts with my hints and findings over the years
they are all in the archives somewhere. It takes a lot of time and thought to
most of my posts and to continually keep regurgitating stuff is annoying.
I've made a suggestion to Joe to help us out and supply a valuable resource to all
but so far Joe has other priorities.
Search Tech/A Threads if your interested there is a lot there!
Hey guys,
Just starting out, been reading up on day trading for a little while. My question is does anyone have a preferred trading platform, I've got a bunch of mates who use commsec and one that swears by Maquarie's platform. I know all the big banks have their own - any advice on if it's makes a difference which one I choose?
Question about technical indicators and their recommendations to sell or buy.
I'm looking at au.investing.com as the only good one round (by the looks of things),
can a newbie rely or gain anything from the moving average or technical indicator recommendations?
Currently on the asx 200 the indicators are giving a sell indication...
Yes I have seen that too. People on ASF are very helpful with their analyses and suggestions. There's always something new that I get to learn from ASF members.I think you can learn as much about understanding and analysing a business from following the share specific threads here on ASF, there are some very knowledgable and skilled people that share their analysis and research here and I have always found that if you ask questions to further your understanding, they are more than happy to help.
Question about LICs/EFTs. I've been reading about these and apparently there are some management fees involved. How are those fees charged to an investor?
Ok it's time for a lesson.
Turning an Idea into Profit
Many posters on this forum will talk about a system or strategy. I want to lead those interested down the process of how you go from an idea...into actually making money from that idea. This will be a simple process or idea I'm going to take you down. This won't be new territory for many traders, but what I'm trying to show the newbs is the process. This means it will require some input from the newbs though...I'm not just going to hand over a system, I expect others to think their way through the process. You won't value what you learn if you are simply given it. So unlike most of my lessons where I just vomit up information...with this lesson I want commentary, questions, flames na-uhs and lively discussion and will be pausing every so often to seek it.
Disclaimer: This is NOT ADVICE. DYOR stands for DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. You heard me. Don't make me break out the legalese. This is also a system I have used but currently don't have the time/inclination to operate. So I'm not ramping anything. I will not be speaking about any specific stocks, only the characteristics that a system will look for. If I mention a stock it will be for example purposes only and most likely involve past price action. Feel free amongst yourselves in the thread to comment, but any questions along the lines of what do you think of XYZ stock in the strategy should be ignored. Anybody feeling the need to respond to that kind of question please remember the forum rules about stock ramping. I want this to be clean and I DON'T want to get Joe in trouble. If I see a post that skirts the grey area I will ask a mod to remove it. Clear?
So what is a system as opposed to a strategy?
In my definition a strategy is the indictors, both technical or fundamental, that are used to identify trading targets to achieve a high probability of a successful outcome. It's easily able to be tested on a large amount of data and across multiple market conditions. Ideally it also allows the market to be scanned for opportunities.
Ok so what's a System? A system takes a strategy to the next level and through a process of preselection increases the probability associated prior to the application of indicators. To me the system is the idea, what you are going to use to preselect those high priority targets.
So lets start with an idea...
Have you ever noticed that something will tank down over a relatively long period of time and then when it seems it cannot go any further down, it explodes out of the blocks? It moves very rapidly, like a rubber band being pulled to full extension and then let go. What is happening? Why the very quick movement? That stock is a dog isn't it? Look how far down it's come? What the?
Link
If you have a look at the above link this might explain what is going on with the price action. It's from the ASIC website and is a list of declared short positions on stocks. Here in Australia you can short a stock using a synthetic instrument via an equity CFD or in limited circumstances short the stock itself if you have a friendly full service broker. The amount of shorts as a percentage of issued capital is an interesting idea, because what happens when the share price starts to rise? All those people who are short in the stock need to close out their positions (which means purchasing the stock at market price). This can cause a rapid movement of the share price as the short positions are unwound. It's like the reverse of a stock overhang. It's a defined quantity of stock that needs to be purchased. In-built demand! With a number I can measure!!
Ok so now we have the germination of an idea, we've got a potential theory to explain some market action and we've found some data.
The next step...
...is to kick the sh!te out of the idea. We're stress testing the thought process.
1) What are the Pro's and what are the Con's?
2) Rank the Pro's and Con's in order of importance
I'll be over there with a scotch and dry while you guys and girls talk it over.
Cheers
Sir O
Ok it's time for a lesson.
Turning an Idea into Profit
Many posters on this forum will talk about a system or strategy. I want to lead those interested down the process of how you go from an idea...into actually making money from that idea. This will be a simple process or idea I'm going to take you down. This won't be new territory for many traders, but what I'm trying to show the newbs is the process. This means it will require some input from the newbs though...I'm not just going to hand over a system, I expect others to think their way through the process. You won't value what you learn if you are simply given it. So unlike most of my lessons where I just vomit up information...with this lesson I want commentary, questions, flames na-uhs and lively discussion and will be pausing every so often to seek it.
Disclaimer: This is NOT ADVICE. DYOR stands for DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. You heard me. Don't make me break out the legalese. This is also a system I have used but currently don't have the time/inclination to operate. So I'm not ramping anything. I will not be speaking about any specific stocks, only the characteristics that a system will look for. If I mention a stock it will be for example purposes only and most likely involve past price action. Feel free amongst yourselves in the thread to comment, but any questions along the lines of what do you think of XYZ stock in the strategy should be ignored. Anybody feeling the need to respond to that kind of question please remember the forum rules about stock ramping. I want this to be clean and I DON'T want to get Joe in trouble. If I see a post that skirts the grey area I will ask a mod to remove it. Clear?
So what is a system as opposed to a strategy?
In my definition a strategy is the indictors, both technical or fundamental, that are used to identify trading targets to achieve a high probability of a successful outcome. It's easily able to be tested on a large amount of data and across multiple market conditions. Ideally it also allows the market to be scanned for opportunities.
Ok so what's a System? A system takes a strategy to the next level and through a process of preselection increases the probability associated prior to the application of indicators. To me the system is the idea, what you are going to use to preselect those high priority targets.
So lets start with an idea...
Have you ever noticed that something will tank down over a relatively long period of time and then when it seems it cannot go any further down, it explodes out of the blocks? It moves very rapidly, like a rubber band being pulled to full extension and then let go. What is happening? Why the very quick movement? That stock is a dog isn't it? Look how far down it's come? What the?
Link
If you have a look at the above link this might explain what is going on with the price action. It's from the ASIC website and is a list of declared short positions on stocks. Here in Australia you can short a stock using a synthetic instrument via an equity CFD or in limited circumstances short the stock itself if you have a friendly full service broker. The amount of shorts as a percentage of issued capital is an interesting idea, because what happens when the share price starts to rise? All those people who are short in the stock need to close out their positions (which means purchasing the stock at market price). This can cause a rapid movement of the share price as the short positions are unwound. It's like the reverse of a stock overhang. It's a defined quantity of stock that needs to be purchased. In-built demand! With a number I can measure!!
Ok so now we have the germination of an idea, we've got a potential theory to explain some market action and we've found some data.
The next step...
...is to kick the sh!te out of the idea. We're stress testing the thought process.
1) What are the Pro's and what are the Con's?
2) Rank the Pro's and Con's in order of importance
I'll be over there with a scotch and dry while you guys and girls talk it over.
Cheers
Sir O
That depends on what "type" of investor you are. As you've held it for several years, let's classify you as not a trader. If you're a value investor, then you behavior seems possible (albeit you gave no fundamental reasons for this). If you're a momentum investor, then no, you should keep holding while a share goes up. If you believe in reversion to the mean, then you've done the right thing.ok ive been watching a share since I have owned it for several yrs. So I sold for 1.12.$ it is currently sitting 1.25$. doh. How should I have done this ?
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