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Hi, im a fairly new trader, about 5months in. Ive got a fairly good grasp on how the economy rolls, how this effects that ect. But I cannot get a decent system of when to enter a stock...as in....when all the lights are green to buy a stock and im expecting a billion others to be wanting the same stock, how do i get it before the big gap up in the morning?

Do I just take a bit of a punt and start buying stocks that have been oversold and look like turning and hope that the dow is ready to turn green that night for the next day? Or do I buy after the close for the next day and put my buy order in about 5% above the closing price and hope that my order gets filled?

Basically my strategy is to sit on the side lines until the dow has finished its downward leg. Then when the dow turns green, or for goldies, when the POG turns up overnight, I want to get into these stocks the best way i can. So do I put an order in for the pre-open? Or do I buy straight away on the open?

How can I do this without trying to predict when the price of gold will be up, or when the dow will be up the next day? Or is this the only real way of profiting?

I really need help with this fellas.....the longer the explaination the better....!

PS - I should note that my strategy is to enter a stock and stay in it for however many days it takes to hit its resistance level or pull out if it doesnt look like it has the legs. Stop losses are around 10% for me at the moment but im still playing around with them too.
 
Why not use a limit order. Plan to buy on a break a certain price level, for example 1.01. If support is .95, then place a stop at .94. So that .07 difference between your entry and the stop. From this, calculate how many shares you can buy....

Say your total capital funds are 10,000 AUD, and you want to risk no more than 2% on each trade.....so 200 AUD.

Take the .07 from above, and divide your risk (200) by this and get 2857 shares that you can purchase. Now if you get stopped out, you'll only be out your 200 AUD.

This is called Fixed Fractional Positioning and you can search for lots of examples.

Good luck.


CanOz
 
Hi Johno,

Ive got a fairly good grasp on how the economy rolls, how this effects that ect. But I cannot get a decent system of when to enter a stock...as in....when all the lights are green to buy a stock

That sounds like fundamentals....

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I should note that my strategy is to enter a stock and stay in it for however many days it takes to hit its resistance level or pull out if it doesnt look like it has the legs.

That sounds like technical analysis..

Basically my strategy is to sit on the side lines until the dow has finished its downward leg. Then when the dow turns green, or for goldies, when the POG turns up overnight, I want to get into these stocks the best way i can.

That sounds like hoping..

Other than "I want to make money" what are you actually asking for??

brty
 
Well yea birty, the aim is to make money. Am i missing somthing here?

yeah, the aim is not to lose money. when you figure that out, then you can get started on making money. it may take some financial pain to teach you that, but don't worry, you are in good company in this forum when it comes to learning lessons the hard way.
 
..when all the lights are green to buy a stock and im expecting a billion others to be wanting the same stock, how do i get it before the big gap up in the morning?
Before trading with real money, I think you should spend some "screen time" looking at how these "gap up" stocks actually play out in morning trading. Get access to level-2 market data so you can see the depth of market, and get a grasp of the trading opportunities.
 
Hi, im a fairly new trader, about 5months in. Ive got a fairly good grasp on how the economy rolls, how this effects that ect. But I cannot get a decent system of when to enter a stock...

lol -- u and half the trading world Johno !! :D ----

stocks and short term trading in Oz dont seem a good match to me :2twocents ---- maybe try FX or Index trading ??
 
I think i need to just concentrate more on the charts....keep following oversold stocks and not let the DOW etc influence my decisions so much. Unless of course we are on a runaway train into the abyss like last week.

All of my charting is spot on at the moment. Ive picked the last 3 from 3 but tried to get in all of em on the open AFTER the gap up. So I need to pay more attention to the chart, not the DOW.:banghead: (but still keep the DOW in mind....lol)
 
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