One quarter of the fibre rollout to be done overhead.
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=763786
The embedded video is also an interesting watch.
NBN will turn internet into where mobile phones and plans were early days, resellers everywhere pushing deals. Have to be good for buyers i would think?
Only a fool would not support high speed broadband. The politicians you mention are mainly grubs and grafters
Of course you don't. You follow the Party line.
No? In your defence of Kaiser you said;
What part of Abbott's Uni behavior were you referring to?
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So you're not a "huge fan". of Conroy and you're not a "massive fan" of Gillard. Moderate to high perhaps.I think you may be a massive fan of McTernan the king of spin.
Four more strikes against your credibility.
Perhaps more challenging than the government has anticipated.The cost of running fibre in a country as geographically large as Australia is a challenging one technically, financially and politically. NBN had to buy the infrastructure from Telstra so they could at least get something started in an acceptable time frame.
Except the wholesaler is a monopoly.
MW
Perhaps more challenging than the government has anticipated.
Interesting perspective. NBN is a govt mandated organisation designed to be self funding. They provide to all resellers at a comparative price.
A fixed communications (or electricity, gas, water, road etc) network is by its' very nature a natural monopoly. Always has been and always will be.Except the wholesaler is a monopoly.
The only way it ought to fail after that time is if they choose the cheapest tender and end up with dodgy cable.Agreed. Given the 10 year roll out plan they may well end up going back to their starting point and rerun the fibre as it has a 15 yr life so repairs and maintenance will be ongoing no doubt. Bit like the painters on the harbour bridge who just keep on going.
Agreed. Given the 10 year roll out plan they may well end up going back to their starting point and rerun the fibre as [highlight]it has a 15 yr life[/highlight] so repairs and maintenance will be ongoing no doubt. Bit like the painters on the harbour bridge who just keep on going.
Which will never deliver as cheap prices as a model which encourages competition at all levels. I can not really think of a "government" project that is run very efficiently, and as far as I see things like this, they are organisations that encourage mates jobs and corruption.
MW
Optus:
"People talk about letting infrastructure competition work. Maybe you should learn a lesson from history," Krishnapillai said.
"We have empirical evidence of what happened in the late nineties where Optus rolled out a pay TV network down streets in suburban Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
"Telstra went down the same streets, carpet-bombed the business case and effectively Optus and Telstra wrote off over $1 billion through that period. We were losing $300 million a year through that period at Optus.
"So for those that are very brave to ask - and this is always interesting when people tell other people how to spend their money - for those who are very brave to say we should let infrastructure competition continue, [I say] throw money into it.
"We've certainly seen empirical evidence that that will not work and that's one of the main reasons we support the NBN."
Untrue.
As someone else wrote, utility infrastructure is a natural monopoly. It is perfectly logical to have one regulated infrastructure owner, with strong retail competition built on top of that.
In case you haven't noticed, there are no private companies lining up to build parallel electricity, water, gas or communication cable infrastructure. Perhaps you should ask yourself: "why not"?
Optus tried infrastructure competition in the 90s, and it almost sent them broke. Nobody has tried since, and if they have any sense, they won't.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/235024,optus-targets-nbn-wireless-fans-and-fibre-critics.aspx
You just can't help yourself, can you?
How about instead of continuing to extrapolate, exaggerate or completely make up my political position, you get all radical and debate the pros and cons of the NBN itself, and the alternative policy?
I couldn't give a toss about the NBN or any alternative policy. Turnbull will look after that. I am just surprised that you think a Government comprised mainly of ex union leaders, union officials, union lackeys and union lawyers could have any comprehension of planning, constructing or operating an enterprise, as huge as the NBN. Especially when Conroy, their second biggest clown (after Emerson) is running the show.
You once said you would stake your reputation on the success of the project. I am still waiting to hear what your reputation is. Is it as a Labor spin-doctor or as a photo-shopper?
You're still going I see. The king of logical fallacies. Strawmen, Red herrings, Ad Homs. Maybe if you work at it, you can squeeze a few more in there.
I wrote that I would stake my reputation
NBN Co said it would look to finalise the undertaking as soon as possible but did not mention whether it was likely to amend the document to note the commission’s concerns.
“We appreciate that the ACCC has a challenging task in balancing the views of a range of stakeholders in order to achieve a framework that is in the long-term interests of end users,” NBN Co head of regulatory affairs, Caroline Lovell, said in a statement. “We will continue to engage with industry and the ACCC as the remaining issues are resolved to ensure that an appropriate balance is achieved.”
Just google NBN AFR.
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