So_Cynical
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Be thankful they're doing copper remediation in your area. I'd be interested to know what suburb.
I believe they were budgeting for about 10% remediation over the FTTN footprint. If they can honestly get away with around 50% I'd be surprised.
Western Sydney but not the far west, Parramatta area...they are fair dinkum digging up half the street, they replaced every pit due to Asbestos and have now replaced all the 6 neighboring unit block property's, junction or pit to property building...completely replacing the old Telstra line, copper for copper = crazy.
In the years ahead this will be viewed as the greatest economic vandalism to tax payers.
NBN Co and Telstra have signed a deal worth about $150 million to connect 206,000 homes and businesses with the Coalition’s preferred fibre-to-the-node technology.
The deal, whose negotiation was first revealed by The Australian Financial Review , means Telstra builds the national broadband network in mostly regional areas across NSW and Queensland with construction taking around 12 months.
These include Gympie and Bundaberg in Queensland as well as Hamilton and Warner in NSW.
If successful, Telstra’s pilot will be one of the biggest fibre-to-the-node rollouts and could help it win billions of dollars worth of NBN deals.
Did you read the details? 30 metre length of copper, bonded pair. In a lab. I can see it being beneficial for apartment blocks, office blocks etc but for stand alone dwellings I can't see it being overly practical with many cabinets needed per street. Then add in extra electricity costs, $89 million for FTTN power
Of course I read the details. It has uses as you mentioned and the whole point about Turnbull's alternative implementation strategy is to use technology that is available where it is cost effective to do so. This isn't yet available, but may become usable at some stage.
The other point worth noting is that even though the 10 gigabits per second was achieved in lab condition on a 30M length, the technology does not appear to be limited to 30M stretches. What if they can get acceptable speeds, but not 10 gigabits per second, on 200M+ stretches. That would avoid having more cabinets than are currently planned.
http://www.extremetech.com/ said:As always with new copper wire technologies, XG.fast’s massive speeds mostly stem from its use of a larger frequency range. While VDSL2 only uses a 17 or 30MHz block of spectrum, G.fast allows for up to 212MHz, and XG.fast uses a massive 500MHz. It’s pretty much the same thing as WiFi: You could only squeeze so much data into the small 20MHz channel available in the 2.4GHz band — but you can cram a whole lot more into the 80MHz and 160MHz channels available at 5GHz.
The problem with squeezing 500MHz over a copper wire, though, is that higher frequencies attenuate (weaken) very quickly. Couple this with crosstalk (interference from the other copper wire in the twisted pair) and your effective range becomes very short. For VDSL2, max wire length is around 400 meters if you want 150Mbps; for 1.25Gbps G.fast, max distance drops to just 70 meters. For 10Gbps XG.fast, Bell Labs is reporting a max distance of just 30 meters (100 feet). For the slower version of XG.fast, clocked at 1Gbps symmetrical (2Gbps total), the researchers managed a range of 70 meters (230 feet).
http://au.pcmag.com/ said:Alcatel-Lucent's Bell Labs has managed to set a new world record for data transmission over copper lines — you know, the presumably "crappy" copper connection between your house and a local node, and the very thing that your ISP is likely balking at ever replacing with fiber-optic connectivity, due to the cost.
Of course I read the details. It has uses as you mentioned and the whole point about Turnbull's alternative implementation strategy is to use technology that is available where it is cost effective to do so. This isn't yet available, but may become usable at some stage.
The other point worth noting is that even though the 10 gigabits per second was achieved in lab condition on a 30M length, the technology does not appear to be limited to 30M stretches. What if they can get acceptable speeds, but not 10 gigabits per second, on 200M+ stretches. That would avoid having more cabinets than are currently planned.
THE company cha*rged with *delivering Australia high-speed broadband could still provide fibre-to-the-premises to more than 80 per cent of homes, despite the government’s pre-election preference for a fibre-to-the-node network.
NBN Co chief executive Bill Morrow told a senate committee hearing neither the government nor voters would be “upset” if 80 per cent or 90 per cent of customers received broadband through fibre-to-the premises *instead of fibre-to-the-network ”” provided it was the cheapest.
“We are not giving up on fibre-to-the-prem, I’ve heard no one say fibre-to-the-prem is bad,” he said. “ It’s just more costly than fibre-to-the-node in the analysis that was done that I’ve trusted and (am) running with.
“I don’t think it would upset anybody; in fact, I think people would be proud and happy with that fact that we’re not taking a technology-specific option, we’re agnostic.”
Mr Turnbull’s spokesman said Mr Morrow had done “a magnificent job” and that NBN Co had met its June 30 targets “for the first time in its history”.
The AFR in a recent article has expanded a little more in this,New Internet speed record blows past Google Fiber
Bell Labs researchers just broke the broadband Internet speed record.
It is eight times faster than the previous record -- and it was done over copper landlines.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/10/tec...ternet-speed-record/index.html?iid=SF_T_River
Wait a minute. Why would the government intervene to protect Telstra shareholder interests?
Researchers in Denmark have broken the record for the high-speed transmission of data across a fibre-optic cable.
Using a new type of optical fibre supplied by Japanese telecoms company NTT, the High-Speed Optical
Communications (HSOC) team at DTU Fotonik transferred data at 43Tbps.
It was achieved using a single laser with a new type of optical fibre cable that contains seven cores made of glass instead of the single core used in standard fibres, allowing it to squeeze through more data.
The achievement smashes the previous record set by the German research team at the Karlsruhe Institut fur Technologie, which stood at 32Tbps.
Researchers at DTU first broke the 1Tbps barrier in March 2009 using a single laser. Their progress was swift, seeing that figure rise to 5.1Tbps five months later, going on to hit 9.5Tbps in 2011.
The NBN....just another botched Green/Labor left wing socialist thought bubble.........$43 billion planned on the back of a beer coaster in 11 weeks by Conroy and Rudd......how shambolic.....What a disgrace!!!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...aotic-says-audit/story-e6frgaif-1227013441446
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