Moving to Tasmania

qldfrog · 7 March 2023

Good day fellow ASF,
Currently living in a farmlet in the Noosa hinterland, we are thinking to moving to a new place
We have been looking for months now into the local area, and the highlands around Mapleton, Montville, Maleny;
We really like the area but the price of what we look at are crazy 2m+ even now ;
We are now considering a potential move to Tasmania:
within 40min drive from Hobart in a 10 acres or more farmlet with a decent house;
as far as we can see we can get $500k or more price difference between what we sell here..prettu high still and what we can get;
We would cash the differenceand invest it instead of seeing it wasted in rates and non productive assets;
Has anymore move to/from the Hobart region and have any thoughts?
We only like the sea for walking on the beach , not diving, surfing, sailing and prefer mountain, nature and wildlife to city living;
Obviously still want access to a minimum of social life and facilities, cafe and restaurant so the 40min from Hobart.
Ideally even place where we can have a chat about travel, economics or god forbid politics
So far only been to Tasmania in holidays so that would be a big test
Feel free to DM if you want to;
and I know about 2 heads natives ;-)

Dona Ferentes · 7 March 2023

A friend moved (back) to SE Tas... been there 3 years now. Has family there, but found the winters to be tough and complains about the cold. Sea breezes can be bracing; the Southern Ocean is a big evaporative air conditioner .

He's 35km out and now realises he's a an urban type. If you're a tradie, into 4WD trucks and fishing, it's easier to fit in. And there's a seriously disadvantaged underclass, non-aspirational and ravaged by addiction issues.

But around every corner is a view, and nowhere is too far away. Greenies love it and the food/ wine scene delivers quality at a price.

. So, no different to anywhere else.

Oh, and if you commit to buying, it may the last move. The market has run, and could go v. quiet again.

Dona Ferentes · 7 March 2023

Plus, the roads. Narrow, often without shoulders, and if a sign announces a corner to be taken at 25kph, treat that as gospel, not advisory!!

Garpal Gumnut · 7 March 2023

@qldfrog I'd agree with @Dona Ferentes .

It is a very cold place in winter, bitterly so.

I used get paid to travel there from NQ frequently on a generous Government and/or Private Enterprise tab and had a great time in Hobart, restaurants, MONA and travelling in a hire car with Mrs Gumnut 2nd when not engaged in matters which in retrospect were completely unimportant.

There is a significant ICE problem ( as there is everywhere I suppose).

It is more difficult to make new friends as one ages unless one is in to one of the martial arts such as golf or bowls.

I'd have a second home there but not a permanent one.

If you are younger then it may be different. I'd look again at Maleny and environs and just swallow the expense.

My thoughts only. Best with your decision.

gg

SirRumpole · 7 March 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
There is a significant ICE problem ( as there is everywhere I suppose).

They don't drive EV's down there ?

Joe Blow · 7 March 2023

The grass is always greener on the other side. And in the case of Tasmania it's colder too.

You won't get me out of south-east Queensland in a hurry, even with all the southerners coming up after realising how good life is up here.

Good luck with your search frog. I hope you find what you are looking for.

SirRumpole · 7 March 2023

Joe Blow said:
You won't get me out of south-east Queensland in a hurry, even with all the southerners coming up after realising how good life is up here.

SEQ sounds like a worsening horror story if you believe the media with crime rates increasing, medical system overwhelmed etc.

Mid North coast NSW is looking attractive these days.

Joe Blow · 7 March 2023

SirRumpole said:
SEQ sounds like a worsening horror story if you believe the media with crime rates increasing, medical system overwhelmed etc.

Mid North coast NSW is looking attractive these days.

It depends where you are. SEQ is more than Brisbane, The Gold and Sunshine Coasts. The Sunshine Coast hinterland where frog is located is definitely very expensive these days but to be fair it's a lovely spot. But there's the Scenic Rim for those who want a country/rural lifestyle that's cheaper... or Stanthorpe and surrounds (Granite Belt) for those who want the cooler weather.

There are also some spectacular spots like Springbrook in the Gold Coast hinterland with its subtropical rainforests and waterfalls.

There is plenty of diversity if you go looking for it and lots to see and do.

But yes, Brisbane is getting crowded and the run from Brisbane to the Gold Coast is turning into a nightmare these days.

Crime rates are increasing but that is happening in all capital cities around the country. I can't speak to the hospital issue first hand, but accept that this may be a worsening problem.

wayneL · 7 March 2023

It kinda sounds like it doesn't matter where you live; we'll all be living in private compounds, ring fenced with barbed wires and booby traps, growing veggies and recycling water, beating ploughshares into swords (if you have gold, come and see me if you would like a fine handcrafted sword.)

As a general principle though, I reckon somewhere where the cuisine is better than Chiko Rolls and Peters Pies is a must

wayneL · 7 March 2023

wayneL said:
It kinda sounds like it doesn't matter where you live; we'll all be living in private compounds, ring fenced with barbed wires and booby traps, growing veggies and recycling water, beating ploughshares into swords (if you have gold, come and see me if you would like a fine handcrafted sword.)

As a general principle though, I reckon somewhere where the cuisine is better than Chiko Rolls and Peters Pies is a must

BTW, the South West of WA has a lot to offer, except cuisine. A la carte is choice between Chiko Rolls and 3-day old dim sims (no soy sauce to disguise the awfulness of it all)

Yes there is Margaret River but then you have to contend with the most pretentious tossers on the planet, what's going on about bouquet and pallette, rather than just hooking in and getting royally pi55ed on cheap woobla

Garpal Gumnut · 7 March 2023

wayneL said:
BTW, the South West of WA has a lot to offer, except cuisine. A la carte is choice between Chiko Rolls and 3-day old dim sims (no soy sauce to disguise the awfulness of it all)

Yes there is Margaret River but then you have to contend with the most pretentious tossers on the planet, what's going on about bouquet and pallette, rather than just hooking in and getting royally pi55ed on cheap woobla

@wayneL I must take you to task on Chiko rolls and 3-day old dim sims.

Nothing better after attending a B and S, Batchelors and Spinsters Party.

Poise, Chiko Rolls and Dim Sims after a drenching in a bore drain on a waterski pulled by one of the original Toyota 40 Series Landruisers wearing a monkey suit were better than "Koozeen" as you noted..

Them were the daze.

Property is way too expensive atm. It reminds me of the bubble when the Japanese and the White Shoe brigade paid outlandish prices.

gg

farmerge · 8 March 2023

wayneL said:
BTW, the South West of WA has a lot to offer, except cuisine. A la carte is choice between Chiko Rolls and 3-day old dim sims (no soy sauce to disguise the awfulness of it all)

Yes there is Margaret River but then you have to contend with the most pretentious tossers on the planet, what's going on about bouquet and pallette, rather than just hooking in and getting royally pi55ed on cheap woobla

Hmmm wayneL margaret Rivr isn't that the weekend escapes for the pretencious and filfhy rich.
Personally, I prefer further down the coast and around the corner a bit.
Chicko rolls and dim sims, not even the crays will eat them no matter how fresh or old they may be.?

farmerge · 8 March 2023

Joe Blow said:
It depends where you are. SEQ is more than Brisbane, The Gold and Sunshine Coasts. The Sunshine Coast hinterland where frog is located is definitely very expensive these days but to be fair it's a lovely spot. But there's the Scenic Rim for those who want a country/rural lifestyle that's cheaper... or Stanthorpe and surrounds (Granite Belt) for those who want the cooler weather.

There are also some spectacular spots like Springbrook in the Gold Coast hinterland with its subtropical rainforests and waterfalls.

There is plenty of diversity if you go looking for it and lots to see and do.

But yes, Brisbane is getting crowded and the run from Brisbane to the Gold Coast is turning into a nightmare these days.

Crime rates are increasing but that is happening in all capital cities around the country. I can't speak to the hospital issue first hand, but accept that this may be a worsening problem.

As someone who had to to be hospitalised at the minutes notice albeit a couple of years ago, nothing but priase from me in regards to the Midland and Royal Perth Hospitals. Perhaps I was lucky in as much as the wards I was put into were specialist "spinal" that were staffed to suit.

farmerge · 8 March 2023

SirRumpole said:
SEQ sounds like a worsening horror story if you believe the media with crime rates increasing, medical system overwhelmed etc.

Mid North coast NSW is looking attractive these days.

Haven't been to the East Coast for a very long time. More than happy with our lot here in WA. The Kimberleys, Pilbara, and the South West

farmerge · 8 March 2023

qldfrog said:
Good day fellow ASF,
Currently living in a farmlet in the Noosa hinterland, we are thinking to moving to a new place
We have been looking for months now into the local area, and the highlands around Mapleton, Montville, Maleny;
We really like the area but the price of what we look at are crazy 2m+ even now ;
We are now considering a potential move to Tasmania:
within 40min drive from Hobart in a 10 acres or more farmlet with a decent house;
as far as we can see we can get $500k or more price difference between what we sell here..prettu high still and what we can get;
We would cash the differenceand invest it instead of seeing it wasted in rates and non productive assets;
Has anymore move to/from the Hobart region and have any thoughts?
We only like the sea for walking on the beach , not diving, surfing, sailing and prefer mountain, nature and wildlife to city living;
Obviously still want access to a minimum of social life and facilities, cafe and restaurant so the 40min from Hobart.
Ideally even place where we can have a chat about travel, economics or god forbid politics
So far only been to Tasmania in holidays so that would be a big test
Feel free to DM if you want to;
and I know about 2 heads natives ;-)

Mr frog, 40k out from the city. PERFECT is what she and me have at present. Suburbia no way gave that up 45 years ago.
As I was told so many years ago,
Take the plunge, take the challenge and you will never look back. In our case that has been so true.
Hope this works out for you.

qldfrog · 8 March 2023

farmerge said:
Mr frog, 40k out from the city. PERFECT is what she and me have at present. Suburbia no way gave that up 45 years ago.
As I was told so many years ago,
Take the plunge, take the challenge and you will never look back. In our case that has been so true.
Hope this works out for you.

Yes we escaped suburbia within 4y of moving here and never looked back, our issue is living permanently in around Hobart.
we have cattle on 70 acres in the Noosa hinterland..green belt .not so green this year after the driest coldest summer for decades.we could downgrade to probably as low as 10 acres,not working anymore so do not need to commute,but when we start our wood stove at 20c here in qld,what would we feel down south..plush no idea of social life there,type of socio economics crime level etc etc
Weather and population..
coming from Frogland, we know about winters and seasons,etc but not sure we want to go back..even if we could no doubt..
Lifestyle choice but the more info and input from personal experiences, the better.
Basically otherwise,the price of the land only here is same (as similar distance from city views water etc ) near Hobart with a nice top 4 or 5 bedroom house thrown for free.. between $500K and $1m difference.
Limited family here,few friends anyway so why not cash the difference.
I would not consider this if till working in IT but I am not

Smurf1976 · 8 March 2023

qldfrog said:
Has anymore move to/from the Hobart region and have any thoughts?

Born in Hobart and lived there many years so I'm happy to help.

That I left was due to personal reasons and work not anything about the place as such.

Does get cold in winter though.....

Locations - if you're looking for small farm type stuff then my thoughts are down south around Margate perhaps or to the east around Sorrell or surrounds. Lots of properties like that in those areas.

Shopping - apart from local supermarkets in the suburbs etc the major hubs are Eastlands (Rosny Park), Northgate (Glenorchy) and scattered across a few locations around the suburb of Kingston. Plus the Hobart CBD obviously.

Nightlife, restaurants etc - heavily concentrated on the waterfront (Hobart CBD) apart from local cafes, pubs etc.

Demographics and socio-economics there's no clear line that divides, it's more suburb specific. Unlike some cities where just looking at the map answers the question.

Traveling into the CBD from the south or east during the 7:30am - 9am period can be surprisingly frustrating. Not many people and cars you might be assuming - that's true but the Southern Outlet into Macquarie Street from the south, and the Tasman Bridge through to the CBD approaching from the east, are congestion hot spots.

Downsides apart from the winter weather. Well what can I say - state politics moves at a glacial pace at times. It has moments of brilliance and actual leadership on occasion, it's not without some merit, but there are certain perennial issues that just never get resolved and by that I mean never. I'll leave it at that to avoid hijacking the thread.

Dona Ferentes · 8 March 2023

Smurf1976 said:
.Nightlife, restaurants etc - heavily concentrated on the waterfront (Hobart CBD) apart from local cafes, pubs etc.

True. Though I did see Midnight Oil at Lauderdale Tavern. MONA has some great gigs, now.

Smurf1976 said:
Demographics and socio-economics there's no clear line that divides, it's more suburb specific. Unlike some cities where just looking at the map answers the question.

You've been away for a while!... now its Sandy Beijing and the equivalent of the pale; BCR = Beyond Creek Road. Though the heights of Moonah are gentrifying.

Smurf1976 said:
Traveling into the CBD from the south or east during the 7:30am - 9am period can be surprisingly frustrating. Not many people and cars you might be assuming - that's true but the Southern Outlet into Macquarie Street from the south, and the Tasman Bridge through to the CBD approaching from the east, are congestion hot spots.

There's really only one road in or out from each of N, E and S. Even though they are 4 lane systems, with tidal flows, there are few overpasses and lots of traffic lights. Then the narrow CBD streets and short block lengths (it's a colonial town) make for easy gridlock.

Smurf1976 said:
Downsides apart from the winter weather - state politics moves at a glacial pace at times. It has moments of brilliance and actual leadership on occasion, it's not without some merit, but there are certain perennial issues that just never get resolved.

Too true. Parochial, and with a lot of 'blowback',
.......
The 3 major private schools have networks that are hard to crack, and mates look out for mates. Also the old money holds onto the dollars and property pretty tightly (can really only suffer one Martin Bryant).

farmerge · 9 March 2023

qldfrog said:
Yes we escaped suburbia within 4y of moving here and never looked back, our issue is living permanently in around Hobart.
we have cattle on 70 acres in the Noosa hinterland..green belt .not so green this year after the driest coldest summer for decades.we could downgrade to probably as low as 10 acres,not working anymore so do not need to commute,but when we start our wood stove at 20c here in qld,what would we feel down south..plush no idea of social life there,type of socio economics crime level etc etc
Weather and population..
coming from Frogland, we know about winters and seasons,etc but not sure we want to go back..even if we could no doubt..
Lifestyle choice but the more info and input from personal experiences, the better.
Basically otherwise,the price of the land only here is same (as similar distance from city views water etc ) near Hobart with a nice top 4 or 5 bedroom house thrown for free.. between $500K and $1m difference.
Limited family here,few friends anyway so why not cash the difference.
I would not consider this if till working in IT but I am not

Mr frog looks to me as if you are half way onto the boat to Tassie.
Just about convinced me to sell up and foresake our South-West and make the move to those Southern climes too.

qldfrog · 9 March 2023

farmerge said:
Mr frog looks to me as if you are half way onto the boat to Tassie.
Just about convinced me to sell up and foresake our South-West and make the move to those Southern climes too.

Hum not convinced yet but worth considering,honestly there is a moving cost..farm equipment etc whether you sell/buy or move,but it seems only rnefative real factor is weather....people flee Tasmania to move here on the sunny coast. Why go the other way?
Plus while rainy, it is actually not ideal for hobby farming..can be dry and frost burnt in winter
This is our place and some girls after a very dry summer not to say a drought...

It is hard,still looking for a gem around but if no luck, might go down and travel/ holiday for a fortnight

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