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Take your desert island with 2 inhabitants: neither of them work to gather food, build shelter etc. But they have discovered a printing press that can print paper money with enough ink/paper in the machine to print up a significant amount of cash. What is that cash worth, apart from possibly fuel for a fire?
Thanks duc, your comments are a great help.
Looking at it another way, let's say while I was on the desert island I had access to a computer and traded my way into wealth and had a surplus of dividends flowing in to my bank account for which I actually had to do nothing, it just kept flooding in. This would allow me to pay for a cruiser to come and pick us up and take us home. Having got home, I felt concern for my fellow islander who was no good at making money in the markets but I felt duty bound after what we went through together to give him a job as a handyman around my home and paid him above and beyond what I would normally expect to pay. He is happy doing his menial tasks and I am happy sitting on my bottom doing sweet fannie addams other than working out ways to invest my ever growing pile of cash.
This is sort of what I am beginning to feel about the meaning of MMT.....so far.
You suddenly add an increased volume of money certeris parabis and then the prices readjust, viz. less goods, services per unit of money, or what is commonly known as inflation.
So the point is: without goods and services, money has no utility.
Perhaps MMT is a way of putting money into the hands of the folks who spend it and build more infrastructure and products people need like affordable housing and supported accommodation for the drug addicted and perhaps free healthcare. All these would create productive work which in turn would inject more money into a deflationary/disinflationary economy. The fiat money supply would need to be inflated as there is more demand for it to buy more stuff which in turn would help the GDP.
Dunno, just the musings of one who knows little about this stuff. Your thoughts duc?
No, it's a dumb idea. Like socialism/communism, it cannot work in a liberal society. It can only exist in a authoritarian/totalitarian regime.Anyone feel different about MMT as the economy has ticked on?
I thought the idea seemed fantastical when I first heard it but my engineering instincts kicked in and I started to think it sounded more like the economics version of perpetual motion at no energy cost.No, it's a dumb idea. Like socialism/communism, it cannot work in a liberal society. It can only exist in a authoritarian/totalitarian regime.
What you will end up with is some mongrel cross bred society somewhere between "Idiocracy" and "Nineteeneightyfour".
Sadly yes, look at french elections...majority will reelect macron as opposed to facing the issuesHave said elsewhere the type of society you describe will be welcomed by the majority.
well we can clearly see how it is working ( if we care to look )The fundamental principle of money is that it is a unit of account of somebody's production. The motivation to create money *is production, no matter how tangential that has become in modern society.
Like pure socialism, mmt removes that connection and therefore the motivation for people to produce beyond what is mandated for them to do by the state.
What you will end up with is some mongrel cross bred society somewhere between "Idiocracy" and "Nineteeneightyfour".
well we can clearly see how it is working ( if we care to look )
the 'human factor' was always the fatal flaw
STORY OF THE C0MM0N-W3ALTH BANK-TH3FT OF AUSTRAL1AN MON3Y SYST3M
here is i cute tale of when it DID work , and also the reasons why it will nearly always fail ( in a 'modern society ' )
Not talking about our wives are you??Sadly didn't age well. We chose narcissistic pleasure seeking and cheap stuff instead.
Not talking about our wives are you
and that is part of the reason MMT will probably never work againSadly didn't age well. We chose narcissistic pleasure seeking and cheap stuff instead.
I think governments have developed an addiction to MMT no different to a delirious junky on DMT. They both think they are creating a better world with their fix.and that is part of the reason MMT will probably never work again
not that i am touting it as a full-time policy , BUT with the correct people in charge ( almost completely unlikely ) it is a possibility in dire circumstances , one might note it was used in the 'nation-building ' railway line in Australia , while others use it now to rescue fiscally irresponsible corporations , who will do nothing to build the nation later .
but the big flaw in MMT , is ( normally ) human nature , but of course the fiscally responsible will hardly ever need MMT
And in both cases keep doing it and it won't end well.I think governments have developed an addiction to MMT no different to a delirious junky on DMT. They both think they are creating a better world with their fix.
This is the part that s**ts me off the most. It's moral hazard and that is the reason that anything over the short term it will blow the f*** up.... And the reason certain hetrodox economists light Steve Keen should give themselves an uppercut..but of course the fiscally responsible will hardly ever need MMT
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