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MIN - Mineral Resources

The Guardian reported on Chris Ellisons tax and company fraud activities and an easier to read style.
I think he is incredibly fortunate not to be behind bars.

Rips off his company for millions, Rips off ATO for more millions. He is a billionaire . The fines are not pocket change but for someone worth north of 1.2 Billion dollars they could be considered the cost of doing business.

 
and as far as i know .. no relation to me

but 'key person risk ' will be immense after the CEO and chair move on

i should probably cry and wail over this , but i rescued the investment cash twice over here , and still hold a few shares
 
Hmm perhaps friends and associates in very high places have saved his bacon.
 
Sad for the employees I guess.
depends on how much maintenance and upgrades are needed , it MIGHT be the break needed to sort out any glitches.bottle-necks

( it might send some of the workers on holiday/long-service leave , and retain skilled staff that way )

a buddy's brother is still getting offers ( to operate heavy machinery ) despite being a nervous wreck over family issues



but maybe EV mania has peaked , and that might be a good thing as well
 
I am surprised no posting on MIN thread since last 12 days !!

This is a copy of my posting on DLI


The market digested this announcement like slow-release fertiliser, not as a steroid boost.
Who knows, good sense prevails for MIN after so much publicity.
Once guilt has been accepted, there should be remissions and reprives for leading a better life, not a vendetta.
No one can deny CE's excellent contribution to turning a little pipe company, PIHA, into CSI and big MIN. It has benefitted shareholders, governments, businesses, and the community. We should also remember that our super funds invested significantly in MIN. There could be massive job losses if CE also leaves MIN.

I hold neither MIN nor DLI.
 
Thought I'd do a follow up on this as I almost picked the high with the timing of my above analysis.

Things seem to be going from bad to worse for MIN with not only the share price down circa 65% from the Jan '23 high, but the fundamentals in this company are still garbage too.

Share price is currently $33.63.

MIN is currently trading at 52x earnings based on the 2024 AR. Implied growth rate of the business at these levels (based on the simplified formula in Benjamin Grahams booked noted above: Valuation = Current (Normal) Earnings x (8.5 + 2x expected annual growth rate) is 21.93%p.a. MIN has become more expensive even with a 65% price drop as the fundamentals deteriorate along side the share price.

Free Cash Flow

Looking at the financials, net cash from operating activities in 2024 is $1.449B with CapEx being $2.108B. This means MIN has negative free cashflow of -$659M or -$3.37 per share.

This is deceiving because if you just take the comprehensive net income figure from the income statement, you'd be remiss to think that MIN are profitable, albeit in a reduced capacity - which is not true. Once you factor in the $659M in negative free cash flow, the real basic earnings per share for 2024 are -276.29 Cents.

Debt

As I mentioned in my last analysis, this company understates their debt level at face value, and you need to go hunting into the notes to find the truth. At face value the debt-to-equity ratio is 2.41x, however it gets worse. Jump to page 187 of the AR and you will find we need add another $961M of capital commitments not recognised as liabilities on the balance sheet. This brings the total debt level up to circa $9.6B and the D/E ratio up to 2.68x.



Almost $10B in debt, they still paid out $170M in dividends to shareholders during FY24, and they're not even cash flow positive by a LONG way.

I wouldn't be touching this company with a bargepole.

The share price still has a long way south to go.
 
this is a share where my investment cash was rescued a while back ( in November 2020 ) in fact i have taken out the investment cash twice over and this holding is some of the profit running

so for me , the question is , would i throw any new cash at it ?

while not written in stone , i would consider that if the share price drops below $14 again ( where i bought last time )

i suspect a take-over offer would come before that
 
I've had some success with it in the past as a stock for short term trading so that's a different perspective.

I don't hold it at present.
my activity in this stock , actually looks like medium term trading , rather than just making decisions at the time ( the first sell-down was just logical to remove the possibility of investment cash loss and the second sell-down was to help fund purchasing this farm )

regarding MIN .. has the lithium hysteria peaked , and is the wider ( global ) economy heading into a prolonged recession , lowering iron-ore demand
 
MIN has a sensitive announcement:

 
$36.25

which is the quarterly

ON TRACK TO FY25 GUIDANCE
• FY25 guidance maintained for all continuing operations, with Onslow Iron progressing towards its nameplate 35 million tonnes per annum run rate..
• Liquidity as at 31 December 2024 is expected to be $1.5 billion, consisting of more than $700 million in cash and a fully undrawn $800M revolving credit facility.
• Net debt as at 31 December 2024 is expected to be $5.1B,.....
 
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