LM FMIF RG45 dated 31 December 2012:
"... LM is the Manager of the MPF. The MPF, in its own right, has second mortgages behind loans to third party borrowers that are first mortgages of the Fund. As at 31 October 2012 the MPF holds 3 such second mortgages in the total amount of $41,426,410. In each instance the Fund has entered into a Priority Deed to protect its own first mortgage position with the borrower as part of normal loan documentation procedures." ...
Just in case you have not seen these docs,
On the LM Website - under Unit Holder Archives are two docs- LM Strategy for Fund dated 20 Dec 12, the other is titled Misinformation ........ dated 18 Dec
These make interesting reading and highlight for me the difficulties for us investors in feeder funds WFMIF etc are going to be kept informed, as clearly now that LM is no longer RE for this WFMIF, it has no real interest in telling us anything. Often information about the WFMIF is included in FMIF info OR that info re FMIF is directly relevant for us WFMIF investors
I fully realise we will have to chase Trilogy , which I am doing, but its all to easy for them to blame LM , and for LM to say its Trilogy's fault
When questioned about catch up payments for WFMIF (sorry ASICK about flogging this horse) LM replied as follows
"It is a fact that the “catch up” investor income is a liability of the wholesale fund that is included as such in the accounts of that fund and is owing to investors in that fund. Hence we clearly stated that it would be paid.
As the assets in the FMIF are sold, its liabilities and expenses can be paid and capital distributions will be made to all investors. As an investor in FMIF, the wholesale fund will receive the pro-rata equivalent amount as the FMIF and the other feeder funds. As the RE of the wholesale fund, it will be a matter for Trilogy to determine how to distribute the payment to the investors in the wholesale fund.
The first capital distribution will be made in March and we will notify the market of same.
There is a legal process that we are required to follow given the fund’s strategy and as the fund is now deemed “illiquid” . That process ensures fairness to all investors including the wholesale fund".
Just in case you have not seen these docs,
On the LM Website - under Unit Holder Archives are two docs- LM Strategy for Fund dated 20 Dec 12, the other is titled Misinformation ........ dated 18 Dec
These make interesting reading and highlight for me the difficulties for us investors in feeder funds WFMIF etc are going to be kept informed, as clearly now that LM is no longer RE for this WFMIF, it has no real interest in telling us anything. Often information about the WFMIF is included in FMIF info OR that info re FMIF is directly relevant for us WFMIF investors
I fully realise we will have to chase Trilogy , which I am doing, but its all to easy for them to blame LM , and for LM to say its Trilogy's fault
When questioned about catch up payments for WFMIF (sorry ASICK about flogging this horse) LM replied as follows
"It is a fact that the “catch up” investor income is a liability of the wholesale fund that is included as such in the accounts of that fund and is owing to investors in that fund. Hence we clearly stated that it would be paid.
As the assets in the FMIF are sold, its liabilities and expenses can be paid and capital distributions will be made to all investors. As an investor in FMIF, the wholesale fund will receive the pro-rata equivalent amount as the FMIF and the other feeder funds. As the RE of the wholesale fund, it will be a matter for Trilogy to determine how to distribute the payment to the investors in the wholesale fund.
The first capital distribution will be made in March and we will notify the market of same.
There is a legal process that we are required to follow given the fund’s strategy and as the fund is now deemed “illiquid” . That process ensures fairness to all investors including the wholesale fund".
Rodent, knock yourself out about the so-called "distributions" - in my view, everything coming back to you will be capital anyway, and if it isn't called that, that's what it is - it's coming out of the same pool of money.
ASICK, I am sure Rodent knows the distributions will come out of capital, but the thing is, the distributions for 2010, of which we are missing eight, were accounted for in tax assessments for 2011 and thus depending on how the fund was held, some people will be out of pocket due to tax paid on mythical distributions in that year. Also, LM have always said they will pay out distributions (even if it comes out of capital) before paying out the rest of the capital. What is probably annoying Rodent as well as myself is the inequality of the main fund being paid distributions before the wholesale fund and this indeed started before Trilogy even became RE.
This graphic may (or may not) be of interest to LM fund members:
http://moneymagik.com/LMFMIF_MPF_Concerns.jpg
Rodent69 - you can keep banging the drum as far as I am concerned. I feel pretty annoyed too that we in the WFMIF are being treated unfairly by LM in that the main fund is receiving catch up payments and we are not, especially as they received two of those payments, namely, May and June 2010, before Trilogy was ever RE.
I have contacted LM about this disparity and their last letter was a real brush off and stated that:
"the LM Wholesale First Mortgage Income Fund will be the beneficiary of liquidity at the end of the first quarter in 2013 along with all other investors throughout the closed funds. Trilogy will be advised of payments made, however it will be up to them as the new responsible entity as to how those payments will be allocated in the Wholesale First Mortgage Income Fund."
On contacting Trilogy after this, they say that they have taken up this matter or inequality of payments with ASIC. Also they state they are not aware of any lump sum payment to be made to them at the end of March 2013 but when payment is received will endeavour to pay it out as soon as possible, dependent on the level of information made available by LM.
They also state that they possess the necessary license to be RE of the WFMIF, something which I know ASICK disputes.
I fear that we are going to spend many years being bounced around between LM and Trilogy, both companies blaming the other for non payment of monies. I'd like to hope Trilogy comes good but fear the worst after hearing ASICK's many tales of woe.
... As actual investors in LM of course our views on some aspects may differ to ASICK's but I am sure you will agree with me that much of his analysis and interpretation is on the ball, however where I disagree with something I will say so, as I would expect ASICK to do also. ...
I am not an investor in any LM funds but do feel for those who are. About a week ago the GC Bulletin reported that Peter Drake was going to take a higher public profile, something he was not keen on doing but realised he must. To back this up it seems has created a social media platform including his own website, twitter, youtube etc. If you want to view it you can access all his accounts from his personal web page, peterdrake.com.au. Not sure if it will make investors feel better or worse but in case you were not aware of it, I thought I would let you know. It is early days at the moment so not much there you are not already aware of.
Wow, what an experience to visit www.peterdrake.com.au - stunning.
How would I rate it?
Well, not as interesting as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4QQyLQ6kr0
I'm stunned - what would drive a guy to attach his happy pic to a spruik telling investors about his company having lost 41% of investors' money in the LM FMIF? Darn, he forgot to mention the 100% LVR on every loan, and that every loan is in default.
And the video (Mr. Bottle's spruik) -- I couldn't get past the first few minutes after the spruik that "there's been no recession in Australia" - quite unbelieveable given the state of the LM FMIF and all the other funds that have crashed - maybe, no recession, but, that's a technical term, isn't it?
His site is going to make some good reading/watching - and I'm sure it'll generate some good humour, if nothing else.
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