With regard to spending money wisely, I wonder how much Roe Highway stage 8 is going to cost even before the first shovel hits the dirt.This was about spending money wisely on infrastructure so you didn't have to revisit at a later date.
Jeez todster go back and read the second entry, we were saying about spending money wisely, Son you have one mouth and two ears use them acordingly.
I'm not against Roe 8 as such, but the process of getting there strikes me as one where there is a lot of bureaucratic expense.In response to that drsmith, I use the Roe hwy to go too and from work, check it out on a friday night. Normaly from my house to work in Kwinana 20-25min. On fri it takes 30min to get from the Roe onto the freeway all up takes 1hr.
The Roe has to go through to freo area to get the trucks out to midland. The north quay is at capacity and the container terminal has to be moved to kwinana. The Roe has to move on just think about it. Life doesn't stay at a standstill, more population, more containers have to get off the wharfs. More people have to use the freeway. It all goes back to our original debate.
All governments have to spend money to put in infrastructure. It just appears the liberals seem to have a long term view and the labor have a short term view. I must admit labor is warm and fuzzy but that wears thin really quickly.
In response to that drsmith, I use the Roe hwy to go too and from work, check it out on a friday night. Normaly from my house to work in Kwinana 20-25min. On fri it takes 30min to get from the Roe onto the freeway all up takes 1hr.
The Roe has to go through to freo area to get the trucks out to midland. The north quay is at capacity and the container terminal has to be moved to kwinana. The Roe has to move on just think about it. Life doesn't stay at a standstill, more population, more containers have to get off the wharfs. More people have to use the freeway. It all goes back to our original debate.
All governments have to spend money to put in infrastructure. It just appears the liberals seem to have a long term view and the labor have a short term view. I must admit labor is warm and fuzzy but that wears thin really quickly.
I'm not against Roe 8 as such, but the process of getting there strikes me as one where there is a lot of bureaucratic expense.
In my view, the previous government were absolutely mad to sell lend set aside for the Fremantle Eastern Bypass. The only thing that stopped them selling the land set aside for Roe 8 was a threat by the Federal Government to withdraw funding for Roe 7 (South Street to Kwinana Freeway). The South Australian government did this sort of thing on a much grander scale in Adelaide with the result being a north/south corridor (Main South Road) that is little more than an urban goat track in comparison to the Kwinana/Mitchell Freeways and a very expensive problem to fix.
I suspect Roe 8 will be delayed. It's currently unfunded and politically sensitive in relation to the wetlands it would pass through. An expense blowout with other capital works will give the government an excuse to put it on the back burner.
Sheds a bit of light on why your so bitter about the train going through South Perth
Jeez son, you do need to grow up, the train has nothing to do with my trip to work I work shift work, trains don't run 24/7 and don't run to where the real work happens.
JUST GO BACK THROUGH THE POSTS, SLOWLY, AND ABSORB THE INFORMATION. If after that you can sit with someone and run through your responses and then they become relevant, post them. Otherwise put up something that has relevance.
If you can't do that put up for preselection for the W.A Labor party. I think you have a good chance. Obviously you are in complete denial of relevant facts and would prefer to work in a world of fantasy and fiction. Best of luck mate its a hard road and then you come out like me.
By the way I'm a sparky, nothing special.
Many don't use the train solely for work,some catch it to see the Dockers play.
Sparky,not in the ETU but like the benefits?
3 wires 4years lol
I was in the ETU when Wally Woods was a boy and the elec licence cost 50c/annum. LOL
Liberals are the better money managers......right
How come WA is running up a $20 billion dept when Labor left the treasury in good shape.
Look away now if you are a Liberal supporter
Liberals manage big projects better......... right
"Big projects could leave $2b black hole"
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/9252675/big-projects-could-leave-2b-black-hole/
I can't believe you would say this, saiter.( If we can't trust politicians, who can we trust?:
I was in the ETU when Wally Woods was a boy and the elec licence cost 50c/annum. LOL
Victoria almost went broke under Labor in the late 1980's - very early 90's. Tasmania did the same thing at the same time under the only majority Liberal government it had ever had. Meanwhile the State Bank brought financial chaos to SA.
Along came the 1990's and Victorians elected a Liberal government to fix the finances. Meanwhile Tasmanians elected a Labor-Green government to fix that state's finances.
Then the Liberals got back in in Tas and the state's economy went belly up again. Then Labor got back in and turned things around. Now, over 12 years later, the state seems to be going broke again, this time under a Labor-Green government with the Liberals not even remotely involved. Meanwhile in Victoria, the books may look OK but there's more than enough evidence of run down infrastructure and the like.
Based on the experiences of Vic, Tas and SA I'd argue that who is in power is far less relevant than when they are in power. Governments either go broke or batten down the hatches pretty much all at once, regardless of whether they are Liberal, Labor, Green, Democrat, Republican, Conservative or whatever else you like to call them.
Look on the positive side though. If the WA government is actually investing in worthwhile infrastructure then that's more than most of the other states are doing. Argue all you like about whether it should be 6 lanes or 8, at least you're building something.
As for the ETU that someone mentioned... I've been there and been a member of that (not anymore). Yes, it's pretty much a closed shop. But to be perfectly honest, it's by no means the worst such example in any trade or profession. The ETU is just one in a very long list (and for anyone who thinks it's really so lucrative, go become an electrician and join the union - then you'll find out what the downsides are...).
The first thing Colin Barnett should is ditch the Perth waterfront project and keep Riverside Drive open.
Victoria almost went broke under Labor in the late 1980's - very early 90's. Tasmania did the same thing at the same time under the only majority Liberal government it had ever had. Meanwhile the State Bank brought financial chaos to SA.
Along came the 1990's and Victorians elected a Liberal government to fix the finances. Meanwhile Tasmanians elected a Labor-Green government to fix that state's finances.
Then the Liberals got back in in Tas and the state's economy went belly up again. Then Labor got back in and turned things around. Now, over 12 years later, the state seems to be going broke again, this time under a Labor-Green government with the Liberals not even remotely involved. Meanwhile in Victoria, the books may look OK but there's more than enough evidence of run down infrastructure and the like.
Based on the experiences of Vic, Tas and SA I'd argue that who is in power is far less relevant than when they are in power. Governments either go broke or batten down the hatches pretty much all at once, regardless of whether they are Liberal, Labor, Green, Democrat, Republican, Conservative or whatever else you like to call them.
Look on the positive side though. If the WA government is actually investing in worthwhile infrastructure then that's more than most of the other states are doing. Argue all you like about whether it should be 6 lanes or 8, at least you're building something.
As for the ETU that someone mentioned... I've been there and been a member of that (not anymore). Yes, it's pretty much a closed shop. But to be perfectly honest, it's by no means the worst such example in any trade or profession. The ETU is just one in a very long list (and for anyone who thinks it's really so lucrative, go become an electrician and join the union - then you'll find out what the downsides are...).
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