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Libel, Defamation, Fair Comment, facts, mistakes, defence...

Interesting US recent Federal Law decision: http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/06-1826-01A.pdf

New Zealand, I've read, have strict laws on defamation that appear, at first glance, to not go along with the US Federal Law. Other countries have different Laws or maybe no Law, so take care if you are not blogging/posting within a jurisdiction of the United States.
 
What exactly are you looking for? Are you worried that someone on the forum is guilty of this, or is this for the mods?

Cheers,
 
What exactly are you looking for? Are you worried that someone on the forum is guilty of this, or is this for the mods?

Cheers,

Hi CanOz, No! I thought it is a subject that us posters should be interested in. Hopefully, a few more may post and who knows, we may then know and be as careful and knowledgable as they are.
Good Luck
 


The single publications Law covering 27 States ( in the United States ) at the time the Gutnick v Dow Jones case was heard in Victoria, Australia; Later became Federal Law in the United States.
 
gr8 thread noi, but ...someone's gonna have to summarise all this of course , lol . (any lawyers out there ?) - probably deserves some discussion.

Think I had a beer with a lawyer at a party once - (can't remember it too accurately ) Gotta feeling the long hand of the law is getting longer since anti-sedition laws were passed, and almost anything can be called verbal terrorism, and your rights are then almost non existent, whisked away, no contest, can't even talk about what happened to you etc ( a la Hicks). I was surprised to see Ruddock saying "of course" Hicks would still have "freedom of speech" - and I suspect that there are laws there he could draw on which would stop Hicks from talking about it - if it was politically acceptable to take that line of course (which I suspect it isn't)

But I only have a vague recollection of that conversation. I think it's called "freedom of speech", trouble is the "freedom to remember what was said":alcohol:
 
PS if I ever get pissed and say something inflammable here, I'm gonna blame the mods for not deleting it.

My drinking mate agrees.
In his opinion ...
"THASss only fair ...., hic!
I mean , last year I successfully argued my own case before the beak ... I sez, - just for a "try on" - that the publican should be sued because he's the one that sold me the drinks!! - and guess what!! surprise surprise!!, the beak agreed with me!" lol

(PS the law is an ass -
and I say that hoping I won't be up on sedition laws lol)

Correction :- It has been suggested on some websites and in some quarters that the law is possibly , some say even probably, if not an ass, then a fourlegged animal of some sort.

Used to employ a stack of blokes , one of whom started off day release from Silverwater Prison... He went on to work for us for many years, good value , but , lol he had some funny ideas, for instance...

"Suppose you don't like the judge you've been given !!
It's real easy to get him changed you know !!"

we say " mmm" - we'd learn to expect anything from his theories lol

"Yep", he says, "you just jump out of the box, and run up and punch him in the nose , Then they have to get a new one, because he's prejudiced against you!!"

(PS that's a joke, I am NOT suggesting anyone actually do it , OK ??!! lol - please don't arrest me )
 
on a lighter note
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s906766.htm
Lady from Macquarie Dictionary invited in to Sunrise program as a guuest to talk about language ...

"Sue Butler: Even if you use boofhead because you’re putting it in the same context as things which are clearly rude. You know: “You are a f_uckwit.” Well, obviously we know that’s bad."
and immediately she was axed, lol - not allowed to even go there !! So much for intelligent debate about language. funny as.

Sue in turn didn't go on to say ... ..."heck if he only said "boofhead" ... !! It's not as if he said "F**k or Sh*t or ... what was I heard in the sailors bar the other day ? oh yes .. "f**king mob of landlubbering ********* (deleted) ****** (expletive) f***wits - it's not as if he said that."

sheesh that ABC can be a lot of F***wit Boofheads - getting the Waratahs and the Wallabies mixed up. (luv ya aunty )
PS If it's not ok to call someone a "boofhead f_uckwit", is it ok to call them a "buffalo head nincompoop" maybe?
 
interesting website
http://www.caslon.com.au/censorshipguide7.htm
In considering advocacy within Australia and elsewhere it is desirable to be wary of some of the more reductionist dichotomies

1. left versus right
2. secular versus religious
3. technologists versus troglodytes, and
4. the meme of the 'heroic band' fighting valiantly against the forces of darkness.
As in any war, truth seems to be the first casualty.-


I immediately emailed em back - try ASF mate - no way can you make those sorts of generalisations !! lol.

Then it skips to international stuff - of interest only to the dedicated I would guess
sheesh trying to stop kids getting access to pr0n these days is like trying to tell em to believe in Santa Claus until they're 30!
It moves on to heaps of other topics :-
no question there's a problem there
etc etc
 
"a recourse to extreme positions, often with little appreciation of administrative or technological impediments to grand visions

and, more sadly, the lack of tolerance or basic courtesy shown by combatants on different sides of the fray "
nah, nah , nothing like that here ! lol

as an example of the first 4 words of the first sentence, I was reminded of the fact that the majority of us seem to be able to prove (to ourselves if not to others) that God does or doesn't exist etc .

as an example of the rest of the first sentence , how easy it is to fix the problems of the world !! - if only the silly bludy politicians would start their day here on ASF (not that ive become an apologist for pollies, lol.).
 
I tell you who has a good case to sue the crap out of us...

GOD... for the all the blame we have attributed to him for every bloody thing that goes wrong in this world!


 
I tell you who has a good case to sue the crap out of us...

GOD... for the all the blame we have attributed to him for every bloody thing that goes wrong in this world!




I remember meeting a Judo black belt, 4th Dan, who was referred to by his mates as GOD. He hated it, as he said it can so easily be turned round as DOG.
 
I tell you who has a good case to sue the crap out of us...

GOD... for the all the blame we have attributed to him for every bloody thing that goes wrong in this world!


Lol, he'd be trying to setlle the score with Billy Connolly ( and John Clarke) you reckon ?

Like either he's omnipotent or he isnt.

And even if an arsonist starts a bushfire - why then , couldn't he just organise a downpour ?

 

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Brilliant show on SBS just finished (in Eastern States -

I probably could equally post this on "freedom of information" thread
but there is a brilliant show on SBS Insight - 7.30 pm (wassies)
repeated on Friday 1.30pm I think - if eastern states want to record it I guess.

Covers the press, freedom of info, honesty of the press, twisting sensitive stories, beatups, publishing medical records, is FOI denied sometimes purely to save the sitting govt embarrassment , heaps of ethical and freedom issues

brilliant show

to be fair, most certainly many of the complaints were against state govts
 
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