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Legalise some drugs, outlaw others?

Marijuana Gate-Way Drug myth debunked





Radio DJ Alan Jones regarding the Sunday Night program and his input. Well done. A right-wing radio shock jock sees the light. Wow.

http://www.2gb.com/audioplayer/49136#.U560R42SyYl

2.8 million people voted 'Yes'. It's only a matter of time before the laws change.
 
2.8 million people voted 'Yes'. It's only a matter of time before the laws change.

Shame we don't have democracy like the Swiss. We could have a referendum on these kinds of issues and have them resolved quick smart. Alas we're stuck with politicians who rarely represent the will of the people.
 
Shame we don't have democracy like the Swiss. We could have a referendum on these kinds of issues and have them resolved quick smart. Alas we're stuck with politicians who rarely represent the will of the people.

I agree with you 100% on this issue.

Once the pollies see the $$$$ - it won't be long before legalization.

Cannabis goes corporate: Dot-bong boom explodes as Big Marijuana flexes its muscles



Texas will legalize medical marijuana in 2015 and regulate marijuana similarly to alcohol in 2017

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Insight and analysis from the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University





Foreign Correspondent on ABC tonight...


http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2014/s4024788.htm

 
The Foreign Correspondent program this evening threw a quite different light on this.

Seems entirely likely that demand has been less driven by desperately sick 'medical marijuana' users, and perhaps more by Big Money. Corporate America has, as one would expect, seen a wonderful opportunity to create ever more addicts and make billions in the process.

In their ideal world, anyone with the slightest pain or discomfort will become a candidate for their neatly packaged, totally legal product. Whacko! Just what we need. A whole new generation of addicts.
 

While I agree with legalization of drugs (the war on drugs is a proven failure) I am a little uncomfortable with designing new products and marketing them. I am unsure on the marketing rule sin Colorado and Washington, but I do not think they should be allowed to advertise (although cigarette co's still can here in the US)
 
Agree, Julia.

Seems to be a lot of depressed people in this country, all turning to drugs, and I am not just talking about marijuana, ice is a big problem also.

We had a shocking case in the courts last week, a 21 year old, Harley Hicks. He got life for killing a baby in a burglary, with a 32 year minimum. He was on marijuana and ice. The most evil crime committed with no remorse whatsoever.

With this entitlement mentality, no responsibility, its a worry.
 
Equally, I was stunned to hear a researcher recently endorsing the use of Ketamine as an anti depressant.

She said (paraphrasing) 'rather than waiting some weeks for commonly used antidepressants to work, ketamine actually makes the depressed person feel better immediately'.

Well, duh! Might as well just give them a hit of heroin or morphine! Of course it will make them feel better.

Ketamine hydrochloride is an anaesthetic drug used by veterinarians and medical professionals.

The drug has hallucinogenic effects, which means that it changes thinking, perception of time and emotions, and seeing or hearing things that are distorted, or that do not exist at all. - See more at: http://www.druginfo.adf.org.au/drug-facts/ketamine#sthash.P95JZLlY.dpuf

Its 'value' is apparently well recognised on the street.
 

Americans are addicted to prescription drugs already. Some of them far worse than weed. Their whole health system is **** backward. Doctors are motivated by drug companies with free golf days and expensive holidays when they can move large amounts of certain drugs. Heck, as John Hempton pointed out, Fentanyl is agressively marketed in the US.


http://brontecapital.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/get-your-opiates-for-free-capitalism.html

Given the choice between alcohol and marijuana. I'd argue marijuana is far safer. For one thing, no one has ever died of marijuana overdose. I'd have no issue with it being legally available, but sold by the government.
 
Ulverstone mum's cancer battle 'helped' by cannabis oil


http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/2381128/ulverstone-mums-cancer-battle-helped-by-cannabis-oil/?cs=86
 
Natalie was interviewed on 7:30 Tasmania in the last half hour. I don't know how long ago it was recorded but she had no hair on her head.

Tight controls like with various other drugs should be managable. A Tasmanian company wants to have trials and are advocating it as a secondary pain relief, that is use more traditional painkillers before moving on to it if needed.
 
Legalise medicinal cannabis for terminal, chronic conditions: WA Opposition leader Mark McGowan




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-06/wa-opposition-leader-calls-for-cannabis-for-medicinal-use/5575330
 
Ok, so let's say we legalise cannabis for medical use. What is then to stop every pothead in the country availing themselves of it, perhaps even on the PBS, by claiming that their intractable pain has failed to respond to all known currently legitimate analgesia, and therefore they must qualify for access to prescribed cannabis?

Already in the USA, in the States where it's legalised, the advertising and pharmaceutical firms have been busy with their rampant advertising on this wonderful new pain relief.
 

There's nothing stopping every pothead in the country availing themselves of it today.Every week there seems to be a media conference with a new shipping container of <insert your favourite drug> and yet the price of every illegal drug hasn't changed in about ten years. The Netherlands has had pot freely available for years and has a fairly low rate of cannabis use.

Julia said:
Already in the USA, in the States where it's legalised, the advertising and pharmaceutical firms have been busy with their rampant advertising on this wonderful new pain relief.

But Australian regulations around medical advertising are far stricter than in the US. A few pages back I gave the example of fentanyl, an extremely dangerous that has been killing heroin addicts on the East Coast of the US for the last year or so, and addictive drug that is marketed with free samples in the US. I don't see why legalising medical cannabis (and I will admit it is defacto legalisation because there will always be a doctor who will write out a scrip) would change the laws around advertising?
 

As long as the taxpayer isn't funding it who gives a ****?
 

Absolutelly, he is obviously trying the Rudd theory of appeal to everyone, even if you haven't any substance. He is an absolute goose, but then again with media backing he may well gain traction. But I doubt it.
 
I haven't done much research but for controlling seizures etc. it isn't THC but a different component. That means strains can be developed that have THC low enough to not be desired by potheads. Such strains could be grown for medicinal uses and regulated.
 

As long as the taxpayer isn't funding it who gives a ****?
You miss the point, or perhaps just decline to see it. If the TGA were to approve cannabis for medical use, making it available via prescription on the PBS, that would likely inspire sudden, intractable back or other difficult to disprove pain on the part of so called recreational users, thus providing the taxpayer with the wonderful opportunity to fund their drug use.

If people are stupid enough to use a substance which has been clearly shown to have the capacity to potentiate latent schizophrenia and/or exacerbate that and other mental illnesses, then I suppose that's their business.
After all, if they become psychotic, the taxpayer will pay for that medication too.

But Australian regulations around medical advertising are far stricter than in the US.
Of course they are and so they should be. I didn't suggest the laws re advertising in Australia would be changed. I said
Already in the USA, in the States where it's legalised, the advertising and pharmaceutical firms have been busy with their rampant advertising on this wonderful new pain relief.
Who exactly is 'giving out free samples of fentanyl'? It's an opioid much more potent than morphine.
 
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