Julia
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If you just decide to buy/sell at market open, surely you're leaving yourself open to all sorts of price variations?
Julia said:If you just decide to buy/sell at market open, surely you're leaving yourself open to all sorts of price variations?
Julia
Snake Pliskin said:Milkman,
Do you buy and sell in the first 30 minutes of the market - 10am onwards?
If so what is the rationale for that? (It's not flawed, I'm just curious)
I never buy in the first 30 minutes. 10.30 onwards if the opportunity is there. If not I wait for it. If it's not there I don't trade. (part of the plan)
Snake
Milkman...DUDE! we gotta change that! and quick. Brokers are just blood sucking vampires man! :batman: You need to open an online account and start trading more actively. Paper trading is worthless IMO.... You gotta put the real bucks on the line. Feel that emotion, make those hard decisions ..... with real dollars to ever be a good stock trader.Milk Man said:I just use open for paper/backtests to be consistent. I dont trade as such yet so all ive ever done is ring the broker and tell them I want x dollars of abc. My logic might well be wrong because I dont buy/sell often enough yet to make any conclusions.
These are suggestions on how a person can learn how to trade.
An alternative to paper trading:
This requires an amount of at least $1000 - $2000.
THE NAME OF THE GAME IS TO STAY IN THE GAME (PROTECT YOUR CAPITAL!!!).
a) Invest in “Blue-chip” stocks less than $10 using the skills you have learnt in the last 12 months.
b) Invest $100.00 or so at a time (10 x $10, 12 x $8, 16 x $6, 20 x $5, 25 x $4
50 x $2).
c) Brokerage will kill you - $20 in and $20 out (total cost of buying and selling a share $40) but you will get in up to 20 trades.
d) This is the cost of your education and is cheaper than buying a system black box or attending a $4000 course.
e) You will feel the pain of losing real money but you will have gained some great knowledge about real trading.
f) Analyse where you went wrong or why you succeeded.
g) Ask for help if you don’t understand where you went wrong.
Good trading!
zuluwarrior08 said:so that I can get exposure to a 10k portfolio fully leveraged
zuluwarrior08 said:Ive been using a 5% max loss per trade,
zuluwarrior08Started with $1000 using cmc markets CFDs, so that I can get exposure to a 10k portfolio fully leveraged. This has taught me to be extremely money management conscious as I dont have a lot of room if I get it wrong.
I spose Ive thrown myself in the deep end, but its really taught me that I need to take high probability trades, and if Im wrong, i need to get out quick and cut losses.
Ive been using a 5% max loss per trade, which really incorporates $10 to get in and $10 to get out. $20 commision+$30 movement in stock=5%
Ive found this site invaluable in my learning experience, so thanks for all your guys wisdom and experience.
heres to happy and fruitful trading in the future!!
There are 6 ways I know of to eradicate emotion in trading.
Individually or combined (depending on individual circumstance) emotion I believe can be totally eradicated from the equation.
(1) Dont trade if your under capitalised. If your nett worth is $5000 and you commit this or even 50% of it to trading you'll watch every tick and make emotive dumb decisions. If you have a nett worth of $500K and you trade $50k---its the equivelent of our undercapitilsed friend trading $500.Greed
(2) Dont trade excessive parcel sizes. If a move in one of your positions is enough to cause stress or an adverse move in your portfolio does the same chances are your trading to larger parcel sizes.Greed
(3) Understand Leverage and dont leverage beyond your means.10x CFD leverage means 10x potential loss.Greed
(4) Trade mechanically and understand what makes a trading method profitable.Understand its parameters and be sure your tested method stays within those tested.Fear
(5) Understand that standing aside from the market is in fact a position.Fear and Greed
(6) Profit is the greatest confidence booster and emotion leveller.Be quick to sell losers and slow to sell winners.Holding a portfolio of 10 stocks all 20 to 200% in profit eradicates the fear factor. Fear
My feedback from the info given.
(1) Trading to often (to many trades),Hence too much costs
(2) With around a 25% win rate Id say your attempting to pick bottoms--stop trying to do that.
(3) Without knowing how you would have gone had you traded to plan--it is possible that your plan is flawed.--obviously the one you used (The one that wasnt the plan) certainly is.
(4) Not letting profits run.
(5) Over leveraged--you WILL blow up!
Other than that your Luckily still in the game!
Step back and consolidate ideas.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if you are looking to make a profit (aren't we all?) aren't you going to ensure you buy a stock when it's in a downturn in order to maximise your profit?
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