I read about an Australian market gardener who said that with glass houses, to gain maximum plant growth he pumps in CO2 to a level of 1000ppm, and contrasts this with the warmists insistence that if CO2 levels reach 500ppm it's catastrophic for the planet.
How are the two things relevant? The only thing about what you said implies is that optimal co2 levels for plant growths will completely change the climate of our planet (killing many of said plants in the process).
I do not know, but does the IPCC report factor in increased carbon trapping from increased plant growth?
I don't know, does it factor in South American rainforests which stored carbon for so long getting chopped down at an alarming rate?
If the government wants to reduce emmisions why don't they legislate that all offices, shopping centres and any commercial building that runs airconditioning and lights 24/7. Have to install L.E.D lights and alternative enegy e.g solar or wind to cover the energy demand of the building.
Just drive into any city or country town centre at night and check out the lights that are running 24/7.
Why can't the government instruct the ACCC to check out why the ridiculous price for solar hot water systems, if there was ever a case of collusion and price fixing that has to be it.
Why can't they legislate to demand an improvement on fuel economy of all cars sold in Australia.
No it is better to put a tax on polluters that is passed on to you and me in the form of increased costs and or loss of your job.
I think all are good, including the ETS - which has a lot more than the ETS itself, like the aforementioned 10bn fund for green technologies.
Nobody will lose any jobs because of the ETS.
Well we will have to agree to dissagree over the job situation, time will tell who is correct.
This may well be difficult, I am sure some companies will use this as an opportunity, as an excuse to shut down plants which they were going to shut anyway.
Yes that would be because they are marginal at best
I certainly hope your new technology jobs come on line fast and are labour intensive (that would be novel) because there will be a lot of retail, power industry and manufacturing workers just gagging for a job.
But they will be o.k because they won't have to pay tax on their wages from Maccas`and K.F.C .
Laborwocky
‘Twas bullshig, and the slimy coves
Did conspire wi’ greenies in the wabe
All loony were the ministers
And the tax-take outgrabe
Beware the Juliar, my son!
The jaws that fib, the claws that snatch!
Beware the Bob-Bob bird, and shun
The disastrous Carbontax!
The people took the matter in hand
Long time democracy they sought
So rested all by the Hyperbowl
And stood awhile in thought
And as in uffish thought they stood
The Laborwock, with hair of flame
Came waffling through the tulgey wood
And burgled as she came!
“Co2, yer through, yer through!”
The Economy fell on its back
She chopped off its head, and then she said
“Our reforms are right on track”
But how do we slay the Carbontax?
The voters replied, “Boy, oh boy
On polling day! Callooh! Callay!”
They chortled in their joy
‘Twas bullshig, and the slimy coves
Did conspire wi’ greenies in the wabe
All loony were the ministers
And the tax-take outgrabe
(apologies to Lewis Carroll)
I think all are good, including the ETS - which has a lot more than the ETS itself, like the aforementioned 10bn fund for green technologies.
Nobody will lose any jobs because of the ETS.
JULIA Gillard has upheld the renewable energy sector in economically-devastated Spain as an example of the potential transformation of Australia's energy mix under her carbon tax.
but dont worry a carbon tax will stop the trees getting chopped down...
How are the two things relevant? The only thing about what you said implies is that optimal co2 levels for plant growths will completely change the climate of our planet (killing many of said plants in the process).
''It's probably unlikely that the Labor Party will get re-elected at the next election,'' he said. ''I couldn't see Tony Abbott introducing a carbon price on the heavy vehicle fuel users.''
I'm no expert on Spain's power grid but a quick Google search reveals that they are mostly reliant on conventional generation sources (coal, oil, gas, hydro, nuclear) as is the rest of the world. Wind is a major source at times (when the wind is blowing...) but overall the conventional sources are still the major means of power generation in Spain.Lol well Julia seems to think Spain is the right model to follow regarding renewable energy.
Agree. Even their describing a greenhouse gas as 'pollution' is false and insulting to the electorate.I'm wary of anything, any government attemps to bring in on a lie.
The bigger the lie, the greater my skepticism. A lie on major tax reform is almost as big as it gets.
+1.CO2 is not going to "completely change the climate of our planet"! Where did you read that nonsense? That sort of scaremongering is so ridiculous and shows the level of your ignorance.
(My bolds)
Exactly. What a hypocrite.Tony Windsor is relying on the Coalition to get elected at the next election and repealing the carbon tax on fuel for heavy transport that will commence in 2014 under Labor's plan.
Well Tony,
If it's that important, why haven't you negotiated it out of the package alltogether ?
Lol well Julia seems to think Spain is the right model to follow regarding renewable energy.
Loss of 2.2 jobs to every green job created, is that correct?
Perhaps you haven't heard my friend........... plants need CO2 to survive. Ever heard of photosynthesis? No? It's the process by which plants absorb CO2 and release Oxygen.
What exactly has this got to do with global warming? You understand that there is a balance of gasses in the Earth atmosphere, and CO2 needs to occur at a certain proportion...
I suppose you think it would be great if we had 100% CO2?
Can I ask what scientific degrees you hold and with which universities?
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