If you want to join the chorus here repeating what Abbott and Bolt says fine......or you could actualy reasearch the numbers or if not at least start reading George Megalogenis and actually come to grips with the numbers one thats a real problem and thats falling revues......AKA budget deficit black hole.
Nothing intelligent IMHO in calling the Gillard government left wing when is further right than the Fraser government, less centralist than Howard but hey keep the mantras going what the heck.
so am I wrong in saying she isnt in the Labor left?
or are you having another brain fart?
Can you clarify the above? Do you mean Cando is trying to solve the debt problems, or he is using debt to solve problems?e.g. In Qld. we have Newman attempting to solve the problems with debt, but some people still not
happy!
joea
so am I wrong in saying she isnt in the Labor left?
or are you having another brain fart?
Read the policy's she supports on asylum seekers, her position on gay marriage tell me what are they left off?
Area of Australia 7,700,000 Square km http://www.ga.gov.au/education/geoscience-basics/dimensions/area-of-australia-states-and-territories.html
Percentage Forest 21% http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/env_for_are_of_lan_are-environment-forest-area-of-land&ob=ws
Area Forest 1,617,000 Square km =7,700,000*21%
Forest in Acres 404,250,000 Acres =1,617,000*250
Carbon Absorbed per Acre 2.6 Tons http://www.coloradotrees.org/benefits.htm - carbon
Total Absorbed by trees 1,051,050,000 Tons =404,250,000*2.6
Population of Australia 22,500,000 http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Web+Pages/Population+Clock?opendocument
CO2 emitted per Person 18 Tons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
Total Emitted 405,000,000 Tons =22,500,000*18Read the policy's she supports on asylum seekers, her position on gay marriage tell me what are they left off?
I did some number crunching on the carbon profile of Australia. I found it very interesting.
Code:Area of Australia 7,700,000 Square km http://www.ga.gov.au/education/geoscience-basics/dimensions/area-of-australia-states-and-territories.html Percentage Forest 21% http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/env_for_are_of_lan_are-environment-forest-area-of-land&ob=ws Area Forest 1,617,000 Square km =7,700,000*21% Forest in Acres 404,250,000 Acres =1,617,000*250 Carbon Absorbed per Acre 2.6 Tons http://www.coloradotrees.org/benefits.htm - carbon Total Absorbed by trees 1,051,050,000 Tons =404,250,000*2.6 Population of Australia 22,500,000 http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Web+Pages/Population+Clock?opendocument CO2 emitted per Person 18 Tons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita Total Emitted 405,000,000 Tons =22,500,000*18
So, just taking the forest into consideration, Australia absorbs 2.5 times as much carbon as it produces. I'd love to know the figure when other foliage is included.
Where possible I've included a link to the source of the data.
Edit, sorry about the formatting. It looked ok in the preview but has now wrapped the links onto new lines.
Have fun.
Mike.
Thanks for posting your research, Mike - it's very interesting. I didn't realise our forests soaked up more co2 than we produce. It clearly makes an even bigger mockery of carbon tax.
Family slugged with 'carbon tax fee' for funeral
A Melbourne family who claim they were slugged an extra $55 "carbon tax charge" when burying a relative were told "even the dead don't escape the carbon tax".
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8496121/family-slugged-with-carbon-tax-fee-for-funeral
I'm sure we will see articles like this on a daily basis from here on, shame Gillard shame
Frankly it's good to see them suffer in their own stupidity and arrogance, they deserve it.
Very nicely presented train of logic there. Very nice except for one little thing. Your model of the carbon cycle has only considered the inputs. You make no allowances for the output of C02 that occurs during respiration and decay.I did some number crunching on the carbon profile of Australia. I found it very interesting.
Code:Area of Australia 7,700,000 Square km http://www.ga.gov.au/education/geoscience-basics/dimensions/area-of-australia-states-and-territories.html Percentage Forest 21% http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/env_for_are_of_lan_are-environment-forest-area-of-land&ob=ws Area Forest 1,617,000 Square km =7,700,000*21% Forest in Acres 404,250,000 Acres =1,617,000*250 Carbon Absorbed per Acre 2.6 Tons http://www.coloradotrees.org/benefits.htm - carbon Total Absorbed by trees 1,051,050,000 Tons =404,250,000*2.6 Population of Australia 22,500,000 http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Web+Pages/Population+Clock?opendocument CO2 emitted per Person 18 Tons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita Total Emitted 405,000,000 Tons =22,500,000*18
So, just taking the forest into consideration, Australia absorbs 2.5 times as much carbon as it produces. I'd love to know the figure when other foliage is included.
Where possible I've included a link to the source of the data.
Edit, sorry about the formatting. It looked ok in the preview but has now wrapped the links onto new lines.
Have fun.
Mike.
...Nice little exercise to show how people will blindly support a model, no matter how simple or flawed, because it supports their ideological position.
Derty, you have just explained so clearly why warmists blindly support modelling over historical facts....
Sails I am fully aware of my comment and it's implications for both sides of the argument.Derty, you have just explained so clearly why warmists blindly support modelling over historical facts....
A delicious irony there derty.Nice little exercise to show how people will blindly support a model, no matter how simple or flawed, because it supports their ideological position.
Sails I am fully aware of my comment and it's implications for both sides of the argument.
The main point was the hypocrisy displayed where models that have been iteratively designed for 30-40 years, have been run hundreds of thousands of times and are of a degree of complexity and resolution that supercomputers or distributed computer networks are required to run them are summarily dismissed as GI-GO and part of the global climate conspiracy but are more than happy to accept a terribly flawed 9 line model.
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) says it has received 630 complaints and enquiries about the carbon tax since it came into effect 10 days ago.
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