Nope. That may have applied 100 years ago, but not today.The rich and upper middle class Vote liberals the poor and middle class vote labor ....
I agree. I don't think these stereotypes apply as much these days. Professionals are as likely to vote Liberal for economic reasons as they are Labor for ethical/ compassionate reasons.Nope. That may have applied 100 years ago, but not today.
The richest guys in WA were (back in the day) all labor. WA Inc. anyone?
Bond, Connell et al, all actively promoted Labor. I also know many highbrows who vote Labor on ideological/sociological grounds. I have a friend who is now earning 7 figures (b@stard), he votes Labor.
Transversely, many blue collar employees and subbies vote Liberal.
Go figure.
I'm completely opposed to tax cuts. The amounts available to individuals would make little real difference in overall cost of living, whilst the amount as a whole could do so much to fund e.g. a dental care plan as an add-on to Medicare, more training for all medical personnel including nurses, lower HECS fees, etc etc. The list is endless.
I would prefer the spending to be on the above infrastructure also in terms of social cohesion. By offering tax cuts to individuals it is endorsing the growing trend of individual "OK-ness" at the expense of a more inclusive and caring society.
I believe the reason this is happening - is the simple fact that the world is growing.
Society is no longer a tight-knit community; there are now too many people to regulate. I would personally prefer a tax-cut, as opposed to free dental for the less fortunate.
There's been too much of a trend these days; of the working people fixing the problems of those who don't - "the dole" is a perfect example of this.
If we want more money for public health care, education, & the likes - take it from those who just wish to further benefit; the ones too lazy to work.
I'm completely opposed to tax cuts.
The amounts available to individuals would make little real difference in overall cost of living, whilst the amount as a whole could do so much to fund e.g. a dental care plan as an add-on to Medicare, more training for all medical personnel including nurses, lower HECS fees, etc etc. The list is endless.
I would prefer the spending to be on the above infrastructure also in terms of social cohesion. By offering tax cuts to individuals it is endorsing the growing trend of individual "OK-ness" at the expense of a more inclusive and caring society.
WTF???
So you are actually wanting a return to Dickensian times with poor houses?
How do you mean?a lot of people are struggling these days in a lot of aspects ; isn't it more fair to ease their burden, allow them to live richer lives - and to let caring be a voluntary decision, and not mandatory?
How do you mean?
This is a pretty vague statement...
You do realise most full time students will have a health care card, as well as people with chronic illness, such as those with juvenile diabetes don't you?Well - as someone else mentioned in this thread - a lot of low paying jobs hardly keep up with inflation - tax cuts are something they need; not only for dental care & roads, but for bills, food, & the likes.
Why should they be forced to miss out on a possible tax cut? Why should any class of workers miss out on that?
Meanwhile ; if you don't work at all (the threshold for the health care concession card; is still fairly low pay), not only are you entitled to money from the government; but you're also entitled to free health care?
You do realise most full time students will have a health care card, as well as people with chronic illness, such as those with juvenile diabetes don't you?
And yeah, tax cuts for the poor are the way to go. But that has hardly the way it has been under this regime.
Well - as someone else mentioned in this thread - a lot of low paying jobs hardly keep up with inflation - tax cuts are something they need;
Will they be better off with tax cuts AND work choices screwing their wage or no tax cuts and better paid jobs with Rudd. Anyway wait for Rudds tax policy which probably have tax cuts for them but not so much for the bigger end of town. There are those in the bigger end of town that would prefer, and be better off with, the money spent on the things Rudd is promising rather than tax cuts.
Well, it's hard not to be selfish though - even if you're an upper-class, it's hard not to want that tax-cut ; for the new boat that is.
I understand that you've been touched rather negatively by work choices Nioka?
I do sympathise with that ; but, I personally know a lot of people (not wealthy, but lower-middle class), that are actually much better off under Work-Choices.
I'm sure there are a lot of people here as well with similar opinions.
question;
Would the people rather pay the amount of tax that Labors policy would have you pay or the amount that Liberal would have you pay?
Because the two policies are currently worlds apart and as I have said before, Labor has had 2 years to put their policy in the ball park at the very least. There is no doubt that when it comes to the economy, especially tax policies, Labor stands on the sidelines hoping not to slip up. In fact I think they do this on almost everything.
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