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Meanwhile, Rio Tinto managing director Australia David Peever said the miner was concerned at the "apparently arbitrary way" in which the new tax had been set at 40 per cent.
Henry: what a sick joke
Ian Huntley
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My personal view is that Tony Abbott, foot in mouth and all, looks better each day.
If Tony Abbott has even half a brain, Malcolm Turnbull's first job will be to read the detail of the Henry Review."Taxing 40 per cent of profits over the long-term bond rate, together with corporation tax, would make the Australian minerals sector the highest taxed in the world, seriously eroding competitiveness," Mr Peever said.
BHP is 40% foreign owned and Rio Tinto is 70% give or take a point or two.
They have contributed the most to the Govt coffers. Why tax them out of being competitive?
Factored in Sammy? Miners are getting spanked in early trade. See BRM and other I/o hopefuls...
Yes they have contributed significantly to the gov coffers, but I recall someone quoteing figures that these company profits (much going overseas) have increased exponentially more over recent years than the Aus tax take.
I'd suggest past and arguably current corruption allegations in WA and now Qld where the states collect the mineral royalties and big political donations from the big miners for political favors re mineral leases and developments, that they have left their very fat pork bellies very exposed for someone like Rudd to corner them for a feast of his own.
Not justifying one way or other, but they have made themselves a very conspicious increased tax target.
Taking the devils advocate position, maybe they'll spend more on exploration and development now to develop more projects as opposed to 'cherry picking' the most cost effective prospects they want to develop and useing their monolopy to just sit on many others until they get a sale price they demand or eventually relinquish, forcing big delays or preventing smaller and even private operators getting in on the act.
I'd suggest past and arguably current corruption allegations in WA and now Qld where the states collect the mineral royalties and big political donations from the big miners for political favors re mineral leases and developments, that they have left their very fat pork bellies very exposed for someone like Rudd to corner them for a feast of his own.
If history is any guide, pretty much all the nasty changes proposed in the Henry tax review will be implemented.
We'll end up with a congestion tax on cars, much higher tax on wine, land tax on the family home, higher tax on capital gains, cutbacks in negative gearing, a tax on bequests and annual increases in petrol tax.
But it will take up to 25 years to happen. And few of the nasties will be taken up by the government that originally received the report.
That's what happened to the Asprey tax review of 1975, which recommended a host of things the Whitlam government wouldn't touch with a barge pole: a tax on capital gains, taxes on fringe benefits and entertainment expenses, something weird called dividend imputation, and a value-added tax (which John Howard delivered in 2000, exactly 25 years later).
Ken Henry's objective was to lay out another blueprint for long-term tax reform. So though Kevin Rudd has sworn not to touch most of Henry's nasties, don't imagine you've heard the last of them.
Rudd has sorted Henry's many recommendations into three boxes labelled Yes now, Maybe later and No never.
In the Yes-now box are all the nice ideas Rudd hopes will win him votes at the election this year, including a great big new tax on mining companies and cuts in company tax, particularly for small business, and bigger superannuation concessions for low-income earners.
Your 'chickened out' comment seems to suggest you think Rudd should have adopted these!?
Clarify please, do you think Rudd should adopt these!?
Yes they have contributed significantly to the gov coffers, but I recall someone quoteing figures that these company profits (much going overseas) have increased exponentially more over recent years than the Aus tax take.
Ok Whiskers, lets have a link like you tell everyone else to do. No hearsay stuff please!!!!!!
My point in question is not whether I believe the "chicken outs" should be adopted, but you tell me why Rudd did not adopt the whole package as suggested by Henry
and why did Rudd increase the super from 9% to 12% when it was not one of Henry's reccomendations.
If Rudd has no confidence in the Treasurer Secretary then he should sack him, or alternatively if I were Henry, I would tell Rudd what he can do with his job.
Ok Whiskers, lets have a link like you tell everyone else to do. No hearsay stuff please!!!!!!
Yeah I was completely wrong there. I have taken today as a buying opportunity however as there seems to have been overreactions all over the blace e.g BRM
Four out of 138 of Henry's recommendations taken up and they call it tax reform
It's early days yet and really if you didn't expect the relative goodies before the election and the gut wrenchers after, then you're pretty naive.
But the bottom line is... be carefull what you wish for... you might get it (more of the Henry recomendations... and there are some shockers there yet)
Did the Henry Tax Review recommend lifting the tax free threshold to $25,000?
That's something I would definitely vote for. But I doubt the Labor Government would ever be that generous to those on lower wages. Those on lower wages earn too much and need to be governed for their own good.
I made no mention of expectations or wishes...merely a comment. Read the link.
Yeah, me too.
I'm thinking tax reform is headed in that direction, probably not all at once though, if for no other reason than the cost to employers and the gov of processing and collecting many of the smaller tax returns is getting more than they're worth. Efficiency and effictiveness is probably heading toward dictating that the complex burden on business and the bureaucracy to process personal income tax is counter productive in many cases.
Ok, so that was another useless sarcastic comment, since it's obvious these things (tax reform) don't fully play out in a day or two, but months and years. It's probably smart to drip feed changes otherwise if they all came out at once many might just throw it and their business into the too hard basket.
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