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Oh dear! :(

That is extremely untidy. If true.

But, I don't see the next world war being religious in nature.

Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakinstan/Yemen is just a side show until one of the large powers opposes the US.

No one can do that without other significant alliances, and there are none.

Wait till China, Russia, India, EU start making pacts. This will happen as the US slides.

We will then go from one Superpower to alliances and they will whittle down to two. Us and them.

Then, oh dear. :(
 
Ah, religion.

Nothing like fiercely and blindly held faith and fanaticism to get people into extreme conflict. You don't get wars fired up over one side preferring Pepsi and the other Coke, or one liking tea and the other coffee, or even one side liking Ford and the other Holden. But you introduce the belief in a supernatural power which wants all people to do things, and put that against another side with a similar belief in a different superpower which wants all people to do something slightly different... and tell all these people that this world means nothing at all and the next one is the important one, and what do you expect to happen?

It's like someone came up with religion specifically as a way of encouraging extreme conflict.

It's probably true though, if we do see the big war in the future, it probably won't be driven by religion, it will be a matter of global takeover. Hopefully if it comes down to that it will be a case of one side saying to the other "Submit or we're going to wipe you out, here is our military, there is yours, we will win". Religion is the type of thing which would make the weaker side say "We will triumph against all odds! Let's go!".

I don't know if they actually are putting bible references on their firearms, but if so, it's a brilliant way to inspire the religious enemy into attacking more fiercely, which makes the people who put the references there very stupid (unless they were sneaky Muslims trying to inspire their own to fight harder).
 
2 Cor 4:6

For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (NIV translation)

Not sure if this is really a passage someone would inscribe in a gun to inspire religious zealots. There are others way more inflammatory/inspiring for that - in my humble opinion.

malachii
 
kennas said:
Oh dear! :(

That is extremely untidy. If true.

But, I don't see the next world war being religious in nature.

Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakinstan/Yemen is just a side show until one of the large powers opposes the US.

No one can do that without other significant alliances, and there are none.

Wait till China, Russia, India, EU start making pacts. This will happen as the US slides.

We will then go from one Superpower to alliances and they will whittle down to two. Us and them.

Then, oh dear. :(
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You nailed it Kennas - the current show is merely to keep the US war machine ticking over, launder money and keep the US population in a war ready state.

As you said the serious stuff will be coming as US power and influence wanes and resources become more scarce/expensive.

As for the bible passage references stamped onto the guns - not necessary.
 
It appears that this identification stamp is a consequence of the manufacturers predeliction with christian religion and is most likely designed as a kind of trademark rather than any kind of call to action.
However, coming from a background in marketing and merchandising I am starting to warm to this idea and see the natural extension to ammunition.
Names engraved on bullets is my idea of the day.
Bit of a problem getting it right but using Mohhamed on foreign ammo and perhaps motherf***r on domestic ammo should cover around 80% of the recipients.
Off to work up my powerpoint presentation now, I smell money !!
 
dalek said:
It appears that this identification stamp is a consequence of the manufacturers predeliction with christian religion and is most likely designed as a kind of trademark rather than any kind of call to action.
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pretty much. from the manufacturers website -

• Morality
We believe that America is great when its people are good. This goodness has been based on biblical standards throughout our history and we will strive to follow those morals.
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good idea about the personalised ammo!
 
Sdajii said:
Ah, religion.

Nothing like fiercely and blindly held faith and fanaticism to get people into extreme conflict. You don't get wars fired up over one side preferring Pepsi and the other Coke, or one liking tea and the other coffee, or even one side liking Ford and the other Holden...
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Nike riots, virtually a civil war, in Constantinople (Roman Byzantine empire), 6th century AD.

Between the 'Blues' and the 'Greens', supporters of the eponymous chariot racing teams. Very much like Ford vs Holden, actually.

The infallible Wikipedia entry has a bit of a blurb.

As for sending weapons with Biblical references to Afghanistan, that's just plain stupid, assuming of course, that one of the shooters' objectives is to win the good-will of the local populace.

Wouldn't matter so much if it was a total war situation (eg, slogans on bombs dropped on Japan and Germany in WW2).
 
Perhaps in the interests of fairness the arms manufacturer should consider putting a few verses from the Torah and the Koran on every 10th weapon's sight.

This would, I am sure keep the Islamists reasonably happy, if an appropriate verse could be found.

An Ayuverdic verse on every hundredth and a word from Al Gore from the Church of Climatology on every thousandth would keep each and every Godbothering murdering bastard happy.

There may even be room for a Danish cartoon on the odd one.

gg
 
The engraved references are being removed from the weapon sights.

gg


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8474268.stm

A US military contractor has said it will stop engraving Biblical references on rifles used by the US army.

The markings, in the form of coded references, have been appearing on products made by the US firm Trijicon, based in Michigan, for decades.

But on Thursday, US military chief Gen David Petraeus, said the practice of scripture references was "disturbing" and "a serious concern".

The firm also sells the gunsights to Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

The inscriptions - which include "2COR4:6" and "JN8:12", relating to verses in the books of II Corinthians and John - appear in raised lettering at the end of the stock number.
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