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Is Shorten PM material?

Is Shorten PM material?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • No

    Votes: 31 83.8%
  • Total voters
    37
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galumay said:
Even if they are it would only slightly help balance the RWNJ's at the murdoch gutter press.
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The difference is the ABC is funded by the taxpayers and have a charter to fulfill which is to be unbiased....The ABC ignore their charter because they think they are a law unto themselves.....The problem is the ABC is laced with Green/Labor left wing democratic socialists ( communism ).

Murdock is a public company and not under any restrictions.
 
noco said:
....The problem is the ABC is laced with Green/Labor left wing democratic socialists ( communism ).
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You RWNJ's are funny, constantly calling people 'communists' as if that was still a thing.
 
galumay said:
You RWNJ's are funny, constantly calling people 'communists' as if that was still a thing.
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I can give you a list of the Fabian Society members who are all allied with communism.....You will fined out one day or you can do your own research......The Green/Labor left wing socialist call it democratic socialism....Chris Bowen often refers to it....This really a screen name.

Have a look at this link for a start.

http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/
 
i didnt even bother opening the link, the url told the story!

Calling people who support the ALP 'communists' is as silly as calling those that support the LNP 'facists'.

I would also be careful about making assumptions about people based on the organisations they belong to, there are LNP people in the H R Nicholls Society and other nasty havens for right wing extremists, there are also plenty who are beholden to the loony religious extremists.

You might open a can of worms if you go down that path.

At the end of the day there are a small minority of extremists at both ends of the political spectrum, but they are in no way reflective of the broader organisations. The reality is the ALP, LNP & Greens have more in common than they have in contrast and thats probably a reflection of the laid back aussie style and the tiny number of extremists in our society.
 

Interesting reading , says a lot really. It's really amazing how many inner city Green votes this type of saving the planet hype has sucked in. It's all about getting a foot in the door in small numbers and then controlling the masses. Todays Senate is a classic example , what happened in the Victorian election is another.
The problem with the Greens is they fool the inner city latte sipping consumers into thinking they are saving the planet. Most of these consumers don't really know what the Green agenda really is , unfortunately that's why they have a stronghold in these areas. Saving the Planet under the guise of socialism.
 
Ijustnewit said:
. Most of these consumers don't really know what the Green agenda really is , unfortunately that's why they have a stronghold in these areas.
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I must admit I don't know what the agenda is either, but I'm starting to think it's not about cheesecloth tops and Roman sandals?
 

I don't think that's really true.
I work with four Green voters (in an office of 12). Two are vegetarians that would like to control our lives and are very into socialism etc. They enforce their values with others over social media etc. There are even politically correct clubs to go to etc. where they ensure all the beer is organic. In Melbourne, Labor are very scared of the Greens. I personally dislike their thinking but like ISIS it is very attractive to some.
 
Shorten stands for nothing.....he has no idea how to fix the budget and I am more than convinced he will never be Prime Minister.
He evaded the important questions presented by John Faine, and even Virginia Tripoli on the 7.30 report tonight.
I agree with everything he said even though I don't know what he said...or did he saying anything constructive....his brain is dead.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...omments/what_does_bill_shorten_truly_believe/
 
noco said:
He evaded the important questions presented by John Faine, and even Virginia Tripoli on the 7.30 report tonight.
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Did you see the dopy expression on his face at the start of that interview ?

The camera must have started rolling a second or so before he expected it to.

His body language during that interview suggested to me that he didn't want to be there which is surprising for a leader who's constantly ahead in the polls. If this week's Newspoll has deflated him that much, he's going to find any serious scrutiny very difficult indeed.

Near the end of that interview came this gem,

I'm not like Tony Abbott. I don't have a thought bubble and then turn it into policy, then if there's a vote for a spill and a leadership, I might go a different way.
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Both Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard might beg to differ.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4204889.htm

My bolds.
 

Should think about developing a metropolis in the middle of Australia..... some man made lakes and use the spoil to build hills where the elite can in turn build their homes. Make the hills high enough and a micro climate will eventuate.
 

Doc, I really think he is trying to avoid the media because the more interviews he has, the more he makes a goat of himself
I would dearly like to see him face up to Alan Jones or Andrew Bolt....But of course he does not have the gutz.
 
noco said:
Doc, I really think he is trying to avoid the media because the more interviews he has, the more he makes a goat of himself
I would dearly like to see him face up to Alan Jones or Andrew Bolt....But of course he does not have the gutz.
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The task is against the (r) abbit, which is easy.

Jones and Bolt are just rabbiters.

Shorten at least puts up some ideas with content. You and Abbott do not seem to know what that means noco.

After WW2 the government set up and fully funded the Soldier Settlement Commission for those returning from the war. Such a scheme today you would call socialist noco. But it made this country great.

We could do this again, stop live exports, build our own submarines, stop importing cheap scrappy food.

Noted yesterday a wealthy businessman states anyone earning more than a million a year should pay no less than 50% tax.

Coommorrrn noco, where under the libs are the jobs coming from.
 

explod, firstly, the Soldier Resettlement commission was set up after WW1 and continued after WW11...So you must get your facts right first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_settlement_(Australia)

STOP LIVE CATTLE EXPORTS? Labor's Ludwig did that and created havoc among cattle farmers including many suicides.....He also almost killed our good relationship with Indonesia...Ludwig and Labor also killed off may thousand of jobs.....Where are the jobs coming from when Labor destroys them.

BUILD OUR OWN SUBMARINES???? It is estimated the subs would cost 4 times as much if completely designed and built in Australia and on top of that the unions would be in control with strikes and higher wages.....And don't forget the last 3 ships Labor acquired between 2007/2013 were purchased overseas.

STOP IMPORTING CHEAP SCRAPPY FOODS!....That is one thing I do agree with you.....My super market has two brands of tinned pineapple on their shelves.....one from Indonesia and one from the Philippines....We grow pineapples here in Australia by the millions of tonnes...now why can't we canned them here in Australia?....Labour costs which would probably make the local canned pineapple twice the price which would add to inflation in the cost of living.....Or perhaps you would like to see the current government subsidize that industry.

Tax the wealthy earning more than $1million per year at 50%.....Great idea of yours but then those wealthy people would have less to invest in business to create jobs.

Where are the jobs coming from??????The Victorian government want to destroy 7000 jobs so perhaps you should ask Daniel Andrews where he will place those lost 7000 jobs by scrapping the East/West link?
 
noco said:
Tax the wealthy earning more than $1million per year at 50%.....Great idea of yours but then those wealthy people would have less to invest in business to create jobs.
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The Greens might now want a higher rate than that given that the current marginal rate for taxable income above $180k is already 49%.
 
drsmith said:
The Greens might now want a higher rate than that given that the current marginal rate for taxable income above $180k is already 49%.
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Well Doc, explod's theory of 50% tax on the wealthy has been shot to pieces...An extra 1% wow.
 
drsmith said:
The Greens might now want a higher rate than that given that the current marginal rate for taxable income above $180k is already 49%.
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Agree and have often been in that bracket.

What we are referring too are business deductions, offshore protections, fuel excise protections and one can go on.

However the real points raised on for example the government programms of the early 1950's no one wants to consider. Get off your backsides and think. Rest his soul, Malcolm Fraser did.

And having grown up on my Dad's Soldier settlement farm was well aware of the scheme being in since WW1 (finicky)

There were also issues of drought and exchange rates effecting farmers back then.
 
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