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Energy will never be free, .
Lol, why do people engage in these discussions?
Just accept that the future is going to be bad (and it is, and certainly not just because of energy needs), accept that you and others cannot and will not change it, shrug your shoulders, and think about something else.
rephrase that to 'Is China's growth sustainable?' and give an answer
Whatever happens to China will effect us. If they boom/bust, so do we....
And therein lies the problem. Electricity is the easy bit, but thus far we've got no means of using it to run aircraft, trucks, buses etc.It is not immpossible, in fact it is very likely that in the future there will be technologies that can produce un heard of amounts of electricity for next to nothing.
And therein lies the problem. Electricity is the easy bit, but thus far we've got no means of using it to run aircraft, trucks, buses etc.
There's lots of ways to get electricity but liquid fuels are another matter. Hence my firmly held view that we shouldn't be using oil / gas to generate electricity - it's a tragic waste of a truly valuable resource.
We don't turn gold into lead, now do we...
You can change your portfolio can't you? TBYSso in conclusion, don't discuss or comment on things you can't change? best we shut the forum down?
, Batteries are a big issue.
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I suspect you are right. A battery car will end up being a "disposable" car that is in practice unrepairable other than minor bodywork, and then only when near new and still with a high enough resale value to make it worthwhile.I'm not even sure we have the metals to replace all the petrol driven cars with hybrids, even then they have a short battery life of around ten years with replacement cost writing the car off at that point. Batteries as we know them are not the answer IMO.
Lol, and you will get it from a vending machine. Wasteful, but awesomeA battery car will end up being a "disposable" car that is in practice unrepairable other than minor bodywork, and then only when near new and still with a high enough resale value to make it worthwhile.
We don't turn gold into lead, now do we...
I like this
http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse
It doesn't matter if clean, free energy ever comes to the public (it won't, there's no way to profit a lot from it, the corrupt corporations and governments will never allow it), every natural resource that we need for food, water and production is very very limited.
I suspect you are right. A battery car will end up being a "disposable" car that is in practice unrepairable other than minor bodywork, and then only when near new and still with a high enough resale value to make it worthwhile.
If we're ever going to live sustainably then we're going to have to go back to making things to last, not making them to be replaced after a few years at most. Even if we sort out the energy, then we're faced with declining ore grades, pollution and all the rest. Making things to break just doesn't stack up environmentally.
I can assure you that, at least it was a couple of years ago, the average life of a car is about double that in Australia. The average age of a car on the roads is somewhere near 10 years, half of them older and half of them younger. Hence why it took 20 years from the phase out of leaded petrol for new cars to it and substitutes disappearing at the pump.I can't see why a Battery car could not have the worn out parts replaced,
and a battery car would have massive savings over it's life in fuel savings and the cost of servicing, So a big one off cost after 10years would not be bad, and would be offset to a degree by trading in the old battery for recycling.
The Average life of a car in Australia less than 10 years any way,
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