Is it really time to bring Schapelle Corby back home?

McLovin · 10 February 2014

trainspotter said:
Also probably a better idea is not to take a boogie board full of dope through customs without paying the right people first.

Bingo. The baggage handlers had a custom moulded plastic bag made to fit inside that boogie board bag on the off chance that one passed through on its way to Bali.

Still all the armchair lawyers will be out in force explaining how she was denied the presumption of innocence. Newsflash: Reverse onus exists in Australia too when you're in possession of drugs, ie it's not up to the prosecution to prove the drugs are yours, you need to prove they are not.

Calliope · 10 February 2014

She's never shied away from publicity before. I suppose it's part of the deal with Channel Seven that they will be the first to show the "free face" of Corby.

banco · 10 February 2014

Chris45 said:
Anyone who visits Indonesia, after this travesty of justice, should be required to sign a waiver that they accept full responsibility for whatever happens to them and will not expect our people to "bring them home" if their holiday goes pear-shaped.

Not surprised you are from the gold coast. A disproportionate number of the bogans who believe their bogan princess is innocent seem to come from Queensland. In all likelihood if the same fact situation applied in Australia she would have been convicted (as McLovin mentioned the importation of drugs into Australia is a strict liability offence).

Tink · 11 February 2014

I am glad to see that a majority of Australians are angry at this pathetic family trying to benefit from criminal activity. We are over it and the whole Schapelle saga.

We all have choices and they made their own.

Australia needs to get tougher on drugs.

McLovin · 11 February 2014

banco said:
Not surprised you are from the gold coast. A disproportionate number of the bogans who believe their bogan princess is innocent seem to come from Queensland. In all likelihood if the same fact situation applied in Australia she would have been convicted (as McLovin mentioned the importation of drugs into Australia is a strict liability offence).

The trial wasn't some half-arsed kangaroo court. The procedures were different as you'd expect in a different country that also doesn't use common law, but there was never anything that appeared to disprove her guilt. And really, go and sit in drug court for a day and watch how many punters walk in with the "I didn't know it was in my bag" defence.

Pathetic effort from Seven paying this criminal $3m for her story.

Pager · 11 February 2014

Not just Corby but CONVICTED criminals seem to be all the rage with the tabloid media who have no morals about throwing money at them or there family’s to get there story ahead of there rivals, the likes of channel 7 and 9 and the varies woman’s magazines should be ashamed of themselves as the message it sends out is do the crime, do some time and then comfortably retire.

I won’t be watching and I hope ratings plummet and advertisers distance themselves from this sort of thing.

sptrawler · 11 February 2014

Agree completely. What a joke, get busted for drugs go to jail, then have someone give you $3million, bloody disgracefull.
Talk about taking the pizz out of honest people.:1zhelp:

basilio · 11 February 2014

...in a box ???

oops.

Chris45 · 11 February 2014

McLovin said:
Bingo. The baggage handlers had a custom moulded plastic bag made to fit inside that boogie board bag on the off chance that one passed through on its way to Bali.

The plastic bag I saw on the news last night was not "custom moulded". It appeared to be a standard rectangular vacuum storage bag.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/203117737/Clothes_Vacuum_bag_also_used_for.html

banco said:
Not surprised you are from the gold coast. A disproportionate number of the bogans who believe their bogan princess is innocent seem to come from Queensland.

What an unbelievably ignorant comment!

McLovin · 11 February 2014

Chris45 said:
The plastic bag I saw on the news last night was not "custom moulded". It appeared to be a standard rectangular vacuum storage bag.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/203117737/Clothes_Vacuum_bag_also_used_for.html

Sorry, I didn't mean custom, I meant it, and its contents, were moulded to fit into the bag, which would have taken some time, and planning.

In any event, it's virtually assured she would have been convicted in Australia. All the xenophobia and wailing about the Indonesian justice system, cheerfully egged on by a the dullards in the media, was so cringeworthy.

Logique · 11 February 2014

Tink said:
I am glad to see that a majority of Australians are angry at this pathetic family trying to benefit from criminal activity. We are over it and the whole Schapelle saga.
We all have choices and they made their own.
Australia needs to get tougher on drugs.

Upon release, straight to a 5-star resort. Doesn't send a good message.

The parolee has to live for 3 years with her sister, so the punishment hasn't ended.

Chris45 · 11 February 2014

Tink said:
Australia needs to get tougher on drugs.

I definitely agree, providing the accused has received a fair trial and has been judged guilty "beyond reasonable doubt".
That standard doesn't apply in Indonesia. Anyway, time to move on.

McLovin · 11 February 2014

Chris45 said:
I definitely agree, providing the accused has received a fair trial and has been judged guilty "beyond reasonable doubt".
That standard doesn't apply in Indonesia. Anyway, time to move on.

She was found in possession of drugs. She couldn't prove that she didn't have knowledge that they were in her bag. That's case closed, in Australia or Indonesia.

Of course we will hear these sort of uninformed opinions wrung out endlessly over the next few weeks.

McLovin · 11 February 2014

And here's what the Chief Justice of the High Court said, which was the majority view...

. As Gibbs CJ put it (pp.536-7, the majority adopting his position on this), ’ "If a person enters Australia carrying a suitcase which has narcotics concealed in it, and offers no convincing explanation of the presence of the narcotics, I should be surprised if a jury would draw any inference other than that he knew that the narcotics were in the case".

And from the same case...

Dawson J. observed (at p.597) that
"... the fact that an accused has been found bringing narcotic goods into the country may ordinarily found an inference that the goods are being imported intentionally, notwithstanding protestaions by the accused that he was unaware of their presence or of their nature or quality. At the very least, proof that the goods were brought into the country by the accused will ordinarily mean that there is a case to answer".

DB008 · 11 February 2014

Tink said:
Australia needs to get tougher on drugs.

Which drugs?
How much tougher?

sptrawler · 11 February 2014

DB008 said:
Which drugs?
How much tougher?

I think you're going to wait 30 years before mull is accepted.lol
We can't even get day light saving in W.A

You will still have to hide behind the dunny.lol

Tink · 12 February 2014

Pager said:
Not just Corby but CONVICTED criminals seem to be all the rage with the tabloid media who have no morals about throwing money at them or there family’s to get there story ahead of there rivals, the likes of channel 7 and 9 and the varies woman’s magazines should be ashamed of themselves as the message it sends out is do the crime, do some time and then comfortably retire.

I won’t be watching and I hope ratings plummet and advertisers distance themselves from this sort of thing.

Excellent post, Pager, agree, disgraceful.
The message sent out to society is WRONG, and we wonder why we have problems.

I wont be watching either, as have said a lot of others.

Australia is too lenient when it comes to drugs and crime, and it shows.

basilio · 12 February 2014

. As Gibbs CJ put it (pp.536-7, the majority adopting his position on this), ’ "If a person enters Australia carrying a suitcase which has narcotics concealed in it, and offers no convincing explanation of the presence of the narcotics, I should be surprised if a jury would draw any inference other than that he knew that the narcotics were in the case".
And from the same case...

Dawson J. observed (at p.597) that
"... the fact that an accused has been found bringing narcotic goods into the country may ordinarily found an inference that the goods are being imported intentionally, notwithstanding protestaions by the accused that he was unaware of their presence or of their nature or quality. At the very least, proof that the goods were brought into the country by the accused will ordinarily mean that there is a case to answer".

It seems pretty obvious doesn't it that if you are found with drugs in your case when you enter a country they were yours ?

Unfortunately there are some very, very clever drug smugglers who have successfully conned people into unwittingly bringing drugs into the country. In the cases that have surfaced the "marks" were found to clearly not at fault in any way.

There is also a case coming up in America where a couple of drug smugglers manged to get copies of car keys from Ford and stashed bags of dope in students cars. It's very clever and far safer for the smugglers.

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By the way I do not think in a month of Sundays that Schapelle Corboy was set up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/26/free-vacation-drug-mule_n_4166263.html
http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/n...-s-border-may-be-unwitting-drug-mules/397289/
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/news/ci_23751049/college-student-who-was-unwitting-drug-mule-sues

basilio · 12 February 2014

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Garpal Gumnut · 12 February 2014

drsmith said:
What about the book and the potential miniseries, Underbali - The Schapelle Corby Story ?

Schapelle's is young and has much to contribute to Australia.

I see no reason why she should not one day take her place in the Senate, for the Greens.

A mini-series could be her stepping stone to respectability with our Green Senators.

Stranger has occurred.

gg

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