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I wonder how many of the members here are old enough to remember the GFC, the Tech crash, the Twin Towers pullback, the big crash of 87, the oil crisis of the 70's etc etc etc.
If you are willing, history is a great teacher, and it also demonstrates the charlatans of the world.
The people giving advice, tips, sure fire money winners, 5 tech stocks that will make you a millionair etc etc, are NOT doing this to help others make money.
They are doing it to make money for themselves.
Its important to always keep that in mind.
History has shown that CB's of almost every persuasion have in the past been late to react, both on the upside and the downside.
Overshoot is probably not something that is taught in economics these days.
But I am planning my near term investing trading around this principal.
Although there are signs that some economies are slowing down, it does not mean that inflation is also slowing down.
I expect that signs of inflation will be with us for some time, as the effects of so many of the levers that have been pulled are yet to show up in inflation figures. The UK and China are moving down the path of more QE, and the Biden administration is running deficits like forever.
These only fuel inflation , not ease it.
The push for a Universal basic Income will become an avalanche if the dems remain in control of both houses of use admin after the November mid terms..
That will require more QE, not less.
I fully expect that most economies will be pushed into recession as the economies contract, and only then will most CB's start to ease rates, and they will ease them to far the other way.
I do not have a time frame for any of this, I have lost faith in modelling of most systems, they have too many unknown variables.
I have been slowly easing into the 3% coupon bonds, the GSBE47.
As they don't mature till 2047, i can think more long term.
They have fallen as much as 20% from their issue price, so it really means that the 80 bucks purchase price gives me an effective yield of 3.5%
Which is still better than the 2.5% i get on my "high Interest account " within NABTRADE.
If the RBA keeps increasing rates, they will hopefully fall further in price, so I will be able average down.
When the recession hits, and the RBA is forced to decrease rates, the price will rise again.
I will still be getting an effective 3.5% interest on my bonds, plus I may have capital gains.
These bonds hit 145 back in 2020, when interest rates were so low and before the market started pricing in rate hikes.
there are other Bonds such as GSBG33 which offer a coupon yield of 4.5%, but although they have come off in price, are still 10% above the face value, so it brings the effective yield down to 4 .1% with less chance of the CG.
Mick

<blockquote data-quote="mullokintyre" data-source="post: 1194613" data-attributes="member: 82018">I wonder how many of the members here are old enough to remember the GFC, the Tech crash, the Twin Towers pullback, the big crash of 87, the oil crisis of the 70&#039;s etc etc etc.If you are willing, history is a great teacher, and it also demonstrates the charlatans of the world.The people giving advice, tips, sure fire money winners, 5 tech stocks that will make you a millionair etc etc, are NOT&nbsp; doing this to help others make money.They are doing it to make money for themselves.Its important to always keep that in mind.History has shown that CB&#039;s of almost every persuasion have in the past been late to react, both on the upside and the downside.Overshoot is probably not something that is taught in economics these days.But I am planning my near term&nbsp; investing trading around this principal.Although there are signs that some economies are slowing down, it does not mean that inflation is also slowing down.I expect that signs of inflation will be with us for some time, as the effects of so many of the levers that have been pulled are yet to&nbsp; show up in inflation figures. The UK&nbsp; and China are moving down the path of more QE, and the Biden administration is running deficits like forever.These only fuel inflation , not ease it.The push for a Universal basic Income will become an avalanche if the dems&nbsp; remain in control of both houses of use admin after the November mid terms..That will require more QE, not less.I fully expect that most economies will be pushed into recession as the economies contract, and only then will most CB&#039;s start to ease rates, and they will ease them to far the other way.I do&nbsp; not have a time frame for any of this,&nbsp; I have lost faith in modelling of most&nbsp; systems, they have too many unknown variables.I have been slowly easing into the 3% coupon bonds, the GSBE47.As they don&#039;t mature till 2047, i can think more long term.They have fallen as much as 20% from their issue price, so it really means that the 80 bucks purchase price gives me an effective yield of 3.5%Which is&nbsp; still better than the 2.5% i get on my &quot;high Interest account &quot; within NABTRADE.If the RBA keeps increasing rates, they will hopefully fall further in price, so I will be able average down.When the recession hits, and the RBA is forced&nbsp; to&nbsp; decrease rates, the price will rise&nbsp; again.I will still be getting an effective 3.5%&nbsp; interest on my bonds, plus I may have capital gains.These bonds hit 145 back in 2020, when interest rates were so low and before the market started pricing in rate hikes.there are other Bonds such as GSBG33 which offer a coupon yield of 4.5%, but although they have come off in price, are still 10% above the face value, so it brings the&nbsp; effective yield down to 4 .1% with less chance of the CG.Mick</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mullokintyre, post: 1194613, member: 82018"] I wonder how many of the members here are old enough to remember the GFC, the Tech crash, the Twin Towers pullback, the big crash of 87, the oil crisis of the 70's etc etc etc. If you are willing, history is a great teacher, and it also demonstrates the charlatans of the world. The people giving advice, tips, sure fire money winners, 5 tech stocks that will make you a millionair etc etc, are NOT doing this to help others make money. They are doing it to make money for themselves. Its important to always keep that in mind. History has shown that CB's of almost every persuasion have in the past been late to react, both on the upside and the downside. Overshoot is probably not something that is taught in economics these days. But I am planning my near term investing trading around this principal. Although there are signs that some economies are slowing down, it does not mean that inflation is also slowing down. I expect that signs of inflation will be with us for some time, as the effects of so many of the levers that have been pulled are yet to show up in inflation figures. The UK and China are moving down the path of more QE, and the Biden administration is running deficits like forever. These only fuel inflation , not ease it. The push for a Universal basic Income will become an avalanche if the dems remain in control of both houses of use admin after the November mid terms.. That will require more QE, not less. I fully expect that most economies will be pushed into recession as the economies contract, and only then will most CB's start to ease rates, and they will ease them to far the other way. I do not have a time frame for any of this, I have lost faith in modelling of most systems, they have too many unknown variables. I have been slowly easing into the 3% coupon bonds, the GSBE47. As they don't mature till 2047, i can think more long term. They have fallen as much as 20% from their issue price, so it really means that the 80 bucks purchase price gives me an effective yield of 3.5% Which is still better than the 2.5% i get on my "high Interest account " within NABTRADE. If the RBA keeps increasing rates, they will hopefully fall further in price, so I will be able average down. When the recession hits, and the RBA is forced to decrease rates, the price will rise again. I will still be getting an effective 3.5% interest on my bonds, plus I may have capital gains. These bonds hit 145 back in 2020, when interest rates were so low and before the market started pricing in rate hikes. there are other Bonds such as GSBG33 which offer a coupon yield of 4.5%, but although they have come off in price, are still 10% above the face value, so it brings the effective yield down to 4 .1% with less chance of the CG. Mick [/QUOTE]

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