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holding SUN hasn't been unprofitable  ( SO FAR )  had to do a bit of  extra  buying/reducing  , and i even escaped AMP making some profit


  and most ETFs have a wholesale equivalent  if the ETFs  offer an advantage  to the fund manager ( reduced research  and balancing  and arguably less costs ) wouldn't a smart manager use SOME ETFs in the client  portfolios  , and 'cherry-pick the opportunities  to beat the market


 mind you   some LICs still offer a better alternative  for a fund manager  as you can snipe them when trading at a discount


 i was a bit concerned a few years back when there was a concerted push by several super funds to increase international exposure  ( especially the union-based ones  )


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