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am playing BHP as 'a safe haven ( liable to survive anything )Well a drop in AUD actually helps exports (not entirely, it still raises the costs of inputs to produce the export) but it's the demand side that's done for with iron ore.
If you've done your DD on BHP you'll know that they started very quietly rotating over into copper and precious metals (lithium, cobalt, nickel etc) mining a year or two back. They did this for a reason and it's the same reason why twiggy's been moving FMG over to energy and so on - iron ore's day is done.
I very seriously looked into a BHP play back then as I was thinking the exact same thing that the company's execs (thankfully) were - iron ore's done and they need to move over into supplying the inputs into whatever the next boom is going to be (namely, electric cars, meaning batteries and copper electric motors) and concluded that they were just way behind the curve.
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I think we'll be back in those sub-$40 troughs before long.
This article sums it up well, it is a bit over the top, but does explain how inflation is going to brought under control, as usual clamping down on wages is the most effective method.It will take a substantial increase in the unemployment rate before this happens. As long as people have a job they will spend on services and demand will not be affected. Once people lose jobs and have to rely on savings (if they have any) or family, that's when spending on services falls off a cliff.
Absolutely, it is much easier to control wages by bringing in more workers, than try and reduce prices by sending businesses to the wall, that's why Labor had to get in.We still running close to full employment?
I suppose that's why they opened the floodgates on immigration. Bring the economy off the boil by making unemployment rise to 5%
Until unemployment rises we can expect rate hikes.
and check throw the pecuniary interest of the parliamentarians and see how much they ( officially ) own and realize Labor feather their nest just as much as the 'rich party 'Absolutely, it is much easier to control wages by bringing in more workers, than try and reduce prices by sending businesses to the wall, that's why Labor had to get in.
They are the only ones that can get away with it, if the Libs had tried it there would be massive strike action and media coverage, wash rinse repeat, the more things change the more they stay the same.
It is why our system works so well.
Imagine if Morrison was still in and said we are going to hammer NDIS, we are going to have the largest influx of skilled workers on record, we are going to recognise Bombay qualifications, we are going to allow anyone access to the first home buyers grant even if they have had it before.
I'm sure the media and the mob would say, "yeh way to go ScoMo".?
Like I said, it works and that's what matters at the end of the day.
Eventually those who are being hammered, go hang on a minute this has knobs on it, I'm working my ar$e off to keep my head above water and money is being thrown around to everyone but me, by then everything is back in equilibrium and the cycle starts again.
We just have to wait and see how much the workers have to hurt, before they kick up, ah a dose of socialism where the rich get richer, the middle class get screwed and the poor get carried through.
Believe it or not that is what makes Australia great. ?
This implies that the average person actually knows what's going on and, well, have you met the average labor/greens voting idiot lately?We just have to wait and see how much the workers have to hurt, before they kick up, ah a dose of socialism where the rich get richer, the middle class get screwed and the poor get carried through.
Hmmmm hidden agenda to bring all and sundry to their knees, and lower.US personal spending and PCE still rising. Fed to continue hiking?
House prices in Sydney/Melbourne are rising again, Qantas has a record profit, consumer spending still holding up, aged care workers record pay rises, strike action on the rise for pay rises, but we have inflation under control.US personal spending and PCE still rising. Fed to continue hiking?
Well if the pollie bum poishers think inflation is good then wages are not. Everyone seems to be crying out "Can I have more please, Sir"House prices in Sydney/Melbourne are rising again, Qantas has a record profit, consumer spending still holding up, aged care workers record pay rises, strike action on the rise for pay rises, but we have inflation under control.
As if.
One more.US personal spending and PCE still rising. Fed to continue hiking?
Get those printing presses oiled, greased and up and running.One more.
More.One more.
Fixed income is currently pricing a 25 at the next meeting. Fed comments before the last jobless numbers were about 50/50 on pausing at the next meeting and then the numbers came out and fixed income repriced another hike. The last dot plot showed one more but again, that was pre data dump.More.
If they can afford the electricity to run them with.....Get those printing presses oiled, greased and up and running.
I haven't crunched any numbers but look at a good selection of charts from randomly chosen stocks in the ASX300 or the S&P500 and there's an awful lot of weakness out there even now. Some are trending up sure but there's plenty trending down and overall the indices are going broadly sideways.Fixed income is currently pricing a 25 at the next meeting. Fed comments before the last jobless numbers were about 50/50 on pausing at the next meeting and then the numbers came out and fixed income repriced another hike. The last dot plot showed one more but again, that was pre data dump.
As smurf has pointed out, history suggests they'll just keep hiking until something breaks/the jobless numbers can take no more but we're living in, shall we say, unusual (historically unprecedented if I'm honest) times.
Who weilds the biggest stick and says jump. The respondent then asks how high and how often.The stock market is not the economy...
But we all know the fed has political masters and the political masters have big business masters sooo...
No matter what.Fixed income is currently pricing a 25 at the next meeting. Fed comments before the last jobless numbers were about 50/50 on pausing at the next meeting and then the numbers came out and fixed income repriced another hike. The last dot plot showed one more but again, that was pre data dump.
As smurf has pointed out, history suggests they'll just keep hiking until something breaks/the jobless numbers can take no more but we're living in, shall we say, unusual (historically unprecedented if I'm honest) times.
IMHO rates need to go far higher but I'm not the one making the decision.
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