numbercruncher
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Hastie engineering services now in administration - 2700 Engineering related positions threatened ..... Goodplace for Miners to start recruiting ... Or maybe its cheaper to get 457's and drop our guys on the dole ?
THERE is a little-known group called Australians for Northern Development and Economic Vision that advocates a special economic zone for northern Australia where businesses can freely bring in temporary workers for construction labour. Among its sponsors is Gina Rinehart, chairman of Hancock Prospecting.
With the first enterprise migration agreement being reached for Hancock Prospecting's Roy Hill iron ore project, the ''Queen of the Pilbara'' has arguably come closer to realising her aim of a special economic zone.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...-for-reform-20120528-1zf6y.html#ixzz1wCZ9U2Ls
Then you have these scum like "Gina" who inherit their wealth, get lucky off a commodity bubble, do absolutely **** all for the country, and then offshore jobs.
And apparently unless you love them it's class warfare? Please
I believe in honest pay for honest work. If you do nothing your entire life but get fat and walk around in an ugly dress, off-shoring jobs and taking over media for your own personal propaganda while screwing over the country which gave you your wealth - well, I take issue with that.
one must behave in an ethical manner
The Rinehart fan club that seems to have a few members here keeps repeating that she "cant" find locals to fill positions - do you have proof of this ?
I just linked an article about a jobs fair in Perth this weekend in which 14k people attended and team Rinehart didnt even have a careers tent at the event .... For someone who needs to import 1700 457s there is a surprising lack of adverts on her website or seek.com.au
Its a rort ...
http://www.miningsearch.com/wp-content/uploads/Article-Mining.com-Recruitment-and-Retention.pdfG
lobally the mining industry is faced with a shortage of
qualified talent to meet its production needs. Every
year there are more people leaving than entering this
sector to pursue job and career opportunities. Some of the key
reasons for this trend include the general image of the industry,
the declining numbers of graduates from mining related programs, and the draining of talent and knowledge as a result of
mining industry turn-over and retirement.
These trends and challenges have been widely discussed in
traditional mining countries such as Canada, the United States,
and Australia for well over 10 years. Depending on industry
growth estimates, the Canadian mining industry alone will have
to recruit between 27,000 and 70,000 employees over the next
10 years, due to retirement and voluntar y separation. From 2004
to 2014, the number of individuals employed in the mining industry is expected to decrease by 12.9%. During this same
time frame about 40% of Canadian mining employees expect to
retire. Mining companies are now beginning to acknowledge that
the current supply shortage is already impacting the productivity, efficiency and profitability of their operations. The shortage
of skilled workers in combination with high turn-over rates are
among the top factors impacting industry growth, either by stopping or delaying projects that would otherwise proceed, or by
significantly adding to the cost of new projects
Using estimation procedures from other industries, we calculated that the cost of
‘average’ employee turnover at an open-cut FIFO mine of 300 employees would be in
the order of $2.8 million.
Most interviewees agreed that a turnover rate above 20 per cent was detrimental to
their site’s productivity. Employee turnover at five of the sites in the study exceeded
this threshold. At several of these sites managers saw ongoing high turnover as
normal or largely due to factors beyond their control.
http://miningforskills.com.au/?cat=4The biggest risk to some of our resources projects being completed in Australia is actually getting the necessary skills, the highly specialised skills in many cases, which go to the construction of large resources projects and, of course, that has flow-on effects throughout the construction sector to ensure that we have the right mix of skills ava stressed that the agreement is designed to bring workers in for temporary peak demand, not the long term.ilable,” Australian Minister of Immigration and Citizenship Chris Bowen said in a press conference on 3rd April, announcing the agreement.
Bowen, alongside Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research Minister Chris Evans,
While the government will continue to help train Australian workers, it wants to avoid training people who will then be left without jobs, Evans said.
I was under the impression the newspaper business world wide is fighting to stay alive yet she is buying in , is she doing this as revenge against the board or does she want control to push her own agenda...
In parliament, Mr Bowen, Wayne Swan, Resources Minister Martin Ferguson and Ms Gillard defended the Roy Hill EMA."This project is vital for Australia's future, and this agreement is vital for delivering it," Mr Bowen said.
I was under the impression the newspaper business world wide is fighting to stay alive yet she is buying in , is she doing this as revenge against the board or does she want control to push her own agenda...
With 2700 now looking for jobs, I ask the question how many will be willing to go to the Pliburra or will they be more than happy to go on the dole?
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Everyone should earn and deserve everything they have. If they didn't, then they are bad people.
That's a pretty arbitrary accusation. If you fancy me a troll, I'd rather not discuss things with you.
I like Australia as a country, I bag the crappy governments which continue to ruin it. Do you think anyone ever wants to leave their country of residence? I would much rather Australia become a freedom, liberty, democracy and capitalism loving nation. A libertarian paradise. But that ain't happening anytime soon - is it?
Nobody is forcing her to hire people from overseas. If I was an Australian businessman, not to mention one of the richest people in the country, there's no way in hell I would ever offshore with 9% unemployment (Roy Morgan). It is simply immoral.
EMA is not the government paying business money or giving them any incentive to hire overseas workers - it is merely allowing them to do so. Still, I do not disagree that it is clear our government is utterly corrupt because there is no justification for said agreement.
I find it highly ludicrous how they claim that there aren't enough construction workers at a time when construction firms are going bankrupt due to lack of work.
"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Enjoy your stay and enjoy your 457
Im a permanent resident now
You are a libertarian yet you want protectionism of jobs and curbs to skilled migration. Hmmmm, I don't think you get what libertarian-ism is mate.
Also, I like the way you judge people yet you don't know them and wish them ill health. A sure sign of insecurity.
How is it free and liberal? As Australians we have no freedoms - zero, nada. No bill of rights - nothing. This government even almost introduced Internet censorship. How crazy is that? We were a hair's width from living in an Iran. And what about Julian Assange? Sell him out as an Australian citizen because USA pissed in Darwin to mark their territory. Not to mention Australia has even broader terrorism definitions than USA. Pathetic.
There is no freedom and liberty here. And there's nothing capitalist about very high taxes and taking 35% of all tax revenue from the most productive members of society and giving it to the most unproductive and undesirable members of society to reproduce. Even in the Soviet Union that would not happen - they'd send the lazy bogans to gulags instead. Even a quasi-communist country is better than Australia.
And all this could easily be done with Australian labour.
If you are a politician, employed by the Australian people - powered by Australian taxpayers, how can it not be called corruption when you give companies the power to hire from overseas, the exact same workers who are presently losing their jobs in Australia? That doesn't keep unemployment down - it only increases it, and the tax collections would come either way.
Our politicians do not represent our best interests - they represent the interests of the rich. "Oh Ms. Rinehart, would you please publish positive things about ALP in Fairfax's newspapers so that I could get the PM salary again for 3 more years?". These people are filthy pigs, and taxpayers ought to be pissed off.
Kill unemployment benefits and people will be signing up by the tens of thousands. Either way, there's no way to prove that there's not enough people unless locals get a chance.
I don't invest, I trade. And I fail to see how investment decisions come into this.
As I work in IT the legal minimum someone on a 457 visa can be paid is about $67k a year. I earn a little bit over this but plan to move jobs soon.Awesome stuff Jank - welcome to the team - lets hope they dont replace you with a lower paid 457 !
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