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Importing Migrant Workers

Hastie engineering services now in administration - 2700 Engineering related positions threatened ..... Goodplace for Miners to start recruiting ... Or maybe its cheaper to get 457's and drop our guys on the dole ?
 
Wow - lots of discussion since I last looked...

I find the relocation point interesting, as someone who has moved for/with work every 5 or 6 years, including 12 yrs OS - & left the west 22 years ago. Lots of people with families don't want to move too far - a point Julia made early on. In Australia, that's generally out of the state. even to a far corner of the state is too much, FIFO is time away from the family & they don't want to do that. A fair proportion of ppl losing jobs are family ppl & just don't want to move. It's hard moving kids in late high school n some relationships wouldn't cope with the separation.

Been up North WA at various times of the year - last time was Jan this year. It's bloody hot n humid over summer. The southern states feel that low 30's is hot. It takes time to acclimatise n the mining companies won't/can't take that time.

The above points makes a lot of potential ppl unsuitable. But sometimes you just have to suck it up and shift.

Perhaps making benefits conditional in some way may shift some (e.g. won't move, then half benefit). Not sure how it could work without being manipulated.
 
Hastie engineering services now in administration - 2700 Engineering related positions threatened ..... Goodplace for Miners to start recruiting ... Or maybe its cheaper to get 457's and drop our guys on the dole ?

Cheaper for the employer to get the 457 from the right country. More expensive for the taxpayer to drop them on the dole.
 
Just found an article exposing this scam further - obviously this money Hungry Rinehart is just acting out a long standing plan ...


Seems to me this woman is driven by sheer greed.
 

The scum on this thread is coming to the surface. Obviously all you brave class warriors with a lynch mob mentality, would like to rid the country of people like Rinehart, who are driving the mining boom which is the only thing that keeps this country and your Labor Government afloat.

one must behave in an ethical manner

Pot/kettle?
 

I linked some numbers before, also the retention rate is a problem
The problem isn't local when it comes to shortages.
http://www.miningsearch.com/wp-content/uploads/Article-Mining.com-Recruitment-and-Retention.pdf




Study of workforce turnover http://www.csrm.uq.edu.au/docs/TURN_FINAL.pdf

Bowens thinking on why he bought in 457
http://miningforskills.com.au/?cat=4

Will add to this later.
 
You struggle to find Rinehart even advertising jobs, its clear she is a scam in pursuit of her Northern economic exclusion zone - next she will want the Pilbara annexed rename it the Republic of Rinehart and employ a private Army wearing dodgy Chinese shoes !!

You go to a professional/fair organisation like Rio Tintos Job Web and jobs are clearly advertised and available ....

http://jobs.riotinto.com.au/browse
 
I was under the impression the newspaper business world wide is fighting to stay alive yet she is buying in , is she doing this as revenge against the board or does she want control to push her own agenda...


The world's richest woman Gina Rinehart has increased her stake in Australian media group Fairfax, the company said Monday, as she lashed out at the chairman after being denied a board seat.
Rinehart, who has a fortune of Aus$29.17 billion (US$28.48 billion) according to an annual index by Business Review Weekly, increased her holding to more than 13 percent from the 12.8 percent she bought in February.
Her foray into the market -- she was already Fairfax's largest shareholder -- came just days after she was overlooked for a Fairfax board seat in favour of former Ernst & Young boss James Millar.
In a statement to Fairfax's Sydney Morning Herald, the iron ore billionaire questioned chairman Roger Corbett's abilities, saying he had presided over a huge loss in the market value of the newspaper, radio and digital media firm.
"Answers need to be given as to how the chairman will address this in the interests of all shareholders, rather than merely hoping for improvements in circulation, revenue and share price or perhaps trying to blame... industry conditions," she said.
Rinehart is understood to have requested two board seats at Fairfax after becoming its largest shareholder earlier this year.
Her initial move into the company prompted the government to flag stronger media ownership laws, with Communications Minister Stephen Conroy saying Rinehart, who has been critical of the government, wanted to exert her influence.
Current media ownership laws, designed to promote diversity of opinion and ownership, prevent anyone from acquiring more than 15 percent of Fairfax, whose shares gained 3.20 percent to close at Aus$0.645.
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I was under the impression the newspaper business world wide is fighting to stay alive yet she is buying in , is she doing this as revenge against the board or does she want control to push her own agenda...

Fairfax is a basket case, she's welcome to it, perhaps she can get rid of all the bludgers in there.
 
I was under the impression the newspaper business world wide is fighting to stay alive yet she is buying in , is she doing this as revenge against the board or does she want control to push her own agenda...

She simply wants a propaganda vehicle to push her own ideology and opinions onto the rest of us.
 
So the Hastie group has gone itno liquidation!!!!

Great to the see unions scrambling over each other to get the company back on it's feet. Yeah,yeah and pigs might fly.

With 2700 now looking for jobs, I ask the question how many will be willing to go to the Pliburra or will they be more than happy to go on the dole?

Never mind, I guess that will mean more jobs for foreign workers. At least it will give the unions something to whinge about..
 
With 2700 now looking for jobs, I ask the question how many will be willing to go to the Pliburra or will they be more than happy to go on the dole?
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Your tone suggests you think these people who lost their jobs with no warning would be "Happy" to go on the dole ..... supporting families on 200 bucks a week - seriously .....

Seems Rineharts brainwashing via the media is playing on peoples brain already ...

Anyone notice the surge lately in Bludger related articles on News shows ? Seen two segments in the last week .... Awesome stuff convince the impressionable masses that Australia is full of dole bludgers to support the case to bring in Thousands of temporary low paid foreign workers to help her on her Quest to be the wealthiest person on earth ....

pretty scary ....

 

You are a libertarian yet you want protectionism of jobs and curbs to skilled migration. Hmmmm, I don't think you get what libertarian-ism is mate.

Also, I like the way you judge people yet you don't know them and wish them ill health. A sure sign of insecurity.
 
"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Enjoy your stay and enjoy your 457

Im a permanent resident now, How long did you google to find that quote?
 

Starry's and NC's ideal version of class hatred disappeared with the Berlin Wall. Perhaps they should relocate to Cuba. No Rineharts there. Entrepreneurs get short shrift there.
 

You are a VERY confused individual. You are also a disgrace thinking that Australia is some sort of Proxy Iranian state. Have you been to the middle east? Have you lived and worked in any other part of the world? Australia is one of the freest, liberal and best countries to work and be successful in. I should know as a migrant. To state that a quasi communist state would be better then what we have now is horse manure. It is also disrespectful to the tens of thousands of people in the world fighting for their own freedom. See Syria and Egypt for example. You are so confused and blinkered there is almost no point arguing with you as you are the type of person that will just go round and round in contradictions.
 
Awesome stuff Jank - welcome to the team - lets hope they dont replace you with a lower paid 457 !
As I work in IT the legal minimum someone on a 457 visa can be paid is about $67k a year. I earn a little bit over this but plan to move jobs soon.
 
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