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let's not forget that the mining tax as it is was custom made with BHP/RIO as part of the plot JG did to overthrow KV.I doubt if they do. Most see them as getting fat (literally) from the exploitation of state owned assets and cheap labour. It doesn't take a lot of brains to dig up rocks and sell them off . I see no problem with the principle of a Federal mining tax in addition to royalties but I think we the nation are getting too little out of the proposed tax.
Good point. Perhaps employers want people who will just do the job.
Unlike the workforce at BHP Mitsubishi Alliance who have announced they will not work for a week.
I'd like to see imported workers take up these jobs.
Gillards only hope of getting Craig Thompson off the front pages is to have a new and exciting stuff up and there is is
IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen has infuriated Julia Gillard and the nation's most powerful union leaders after granting Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman, the right to import 1700 foreign workers for a massive West Australian iron ore project.
The scathing reaction from the unions over the decision to favour the mining magnate - while the government conducts a class war campaign against mining billionaires and vested interests to sell its "working families" budget - has exposed new divisions in the cabinet amid growing concerns about Julia Gillard's leadership.
A better question is, why the hell should they have the right to make such choices?
Get rid of welfare and the minimum wage - overnight labour shortages will end (except of course very highly skilled labour such as doctors).
I don't want to pointlessly import more people into the country to put yet more pressure on our 3rd world infrastructure.
let's not forget that the mining tax as it is was custom made with BHP/RIO as part of the plot JG did to overthrow KV.
It is based on profit, how much profit will these miners make [and pay tax on] if they selll to their respective trading RIO/BHP entity overseas..just have a guess
Another scam/feel good scheme destroying the smaller Aussie miners to profit the giants at the expense of every of us
I will end up supporting unions......
Good point. Perhaps employers want people who will just do the job.
Unlike the workforce at BHP Mitsubishi Alliance who have announced they will not work for a week.
I'd like to see imported workers take up these jobs.
move with the time, it is a global economy if you want to hang on to your ways of doing thing sooner or later you will be out of a job because some one is more willing than you are..
I see it all the time at work, when heavy work load comes around people bitch and moan they have to do extra hours and sometimes weekend work and want more pay, then down turn comes they are the first to go or when they find cheaper workers..
having a job is not a right, you are fortunate to have one, you need to work hard and keep it and stop demanding too much from the employers.
SCM, I don't usually agree with you, but on this I agree 100%. Very well said.
it is a free economy, survival of the fittest, wheeling and dealing is part of the game..
public companies number 1 priority is maximize shareholder return, it doesnt matter if you are a local investors or oversea investors....
lot of aussies invest oversea and we want to maximise return as well, works both ways
you cant demand free market and have communist style laws...
move with the time, it is a global economy if you want to hang on to your ways of doing thing sooner or later you will be out of a job because some one is more willing than you are..
I see it all the time at work, when heavy work load comes around people bitch and moan they have to do extra hours and sometimes weekend work and want more pay, then down turn comes they are the first to go or when they find cheaper workers..
having a job is not a right, you are fortunate to have one, you need to work hard and keep it and stop demanding too much from the employers.
until people wake up to that facts, they are more likely to be without a job when down turn comes or cheaper workers found..
That was noted in the press todasy.I'd like to see imported workers take up these jobs.
it is a free economy, survival of the fittest, wheeling and dealing is part of the game..
public companies number 1 priority is maximize shareholder return, it doesnt matter if you are a local investors or oversea investors....
lot of aussies invest oversea and we want to maximise return as well, works both ways
you cant demand free market and have communist style laws...
move with the time, it is a global economy if you want to hang on to your ways of doing thing sooner or later you will be out of a job because some one is more willing than you are..
I see it all the time at work, when heavy work load comes around people bitch and moan they have to do extra hours and sometimes weekend work and want more pay, then down turn comes they are the first to go or when they find cheaper workers..
having a job is not a right, you are fortunate to have one, you need to work hard and keep it and stop demanding too much from the employers.
until people wake up to that facts, they are more likely to be without a job when down turn comes or cheaper workers found..
ROE and Jet: great posts.Its amazing how peoples perceptions differ between industries.
If you look at some male dominated, above average paying jobs eg. mining, automotive. The consensus view is we should be protecting these jobs for Australians eg. tariffs, government funding, no foreign workers.
You then look at an industry like retail, female dominated with below average, if not just about minimum wages. The consensus view here is no GST on overseas purchases and competition is good for the consumer at whatever cost.
When Borders closed down did anyone care about their jobs? Yet when toyota sacks a percentage of their workers after receiving huge amounts of taxpayer money we get an 8 page feature in the Herald Sun for the next 3 days...
A $500 product. The Australian retailer employs Australian staff, rents a premises in Australia and all the services that goes with running a business (rates, electricity, accounting etc) and their reward for using Australian services is they have to charge their customers an extra 10% compared to their overseas competitor along with all that goes with GST compliance.
Its basically an anti-tariff.
Reverse the situation and just imagine this ever happening the automotive industry...
Australia needs to stop playing favourites with certain unionised industries. If competition is good for retail, its good for mining and cars. If protectionism is good, its good for plenty of other industries too...
I can't believe this. It will go the way of "Grocery Watch" and "Petrol Watch".This "jobs board" will surely be seen as another Gillard ****-up, ranking alongside the Citizens Assembly that nobody heard of until it came from her mouth during the 2010 election.
so we havent got 1700 skilled workers for the mines? who believes that? these jobs are for skilled workers not long term layabouts so its all bs about people not wanting these jobs.
its got nothing to do with skills or shortage as the imported workers DONT have the skills required & we dont have a shortage of skilled workers to take the jobs.
why would you import unskilled workers that you supposedly have to train??
so you can pay them scab wages... no secret there.
rinehart IS WORTH $29B & WANTS TO IMPORT SCAB LABOUR,just have a think about
the greed this woman is showing the country.
watching closely to see the unions sell out workers once again.
tigerboi......roadtrain/b double licence,forklift licence
my skills are worth $180,000 to $220,000 a year
its a load of bull.
when the deals are done its ok you can use your workers dont worry
the guvment will allow it.
tb
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