Some are, most are not. Financial markets follow the same food chain structure as poker. Most have no idea, some have a clue, and few are very good.
I'll be the devil in the ear suggesting you to trade for yourself, but then I am completely biased, so it may not be wise to consider it as advice.
Your gambling experience is probably far more beneficial than you realise, or at least more than you state here.
Nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate
I can definitely see how my background might help me and I certainly agree with you that the economies are structured similarly. It just seems that there are more relative "fish" in the financial markets than there are in online poker in 2009/2010. I also imagine that the market will stay like this for a very, very long time where poker has started to see most of the bottom fall out, thus less easy money trickles upwards...I just don't want to be there at the end when everyone good is fighting for the last few dollars before it all implodes.
One day, I would love to trade for myself but I feel (maybe wrongly?) that I am best off getting my start with limited liability and maximum available resources, which is sort of what I figure a prop shop gives me.
Nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate
I can definitely see how my background might help me and I certainly agree with you that the economies are structured similarly. It just seems that there are more relative "fish" in the financial markets than there are in online poker in 2009/2010. I also imagine that the market will stay like this for a very, very long time where poker has started to see most of the bottom fall out, thus less easy money trickles upwards...I just don't want to be there at the end when everyone good is fighting for the last few dollars before it all implodes.
One day, I would love to trade for myself but I feel (maybe wrongly?) that I am best off getting my start with limited liability and maximum available resources, which is sort of what I figure a prop shop gives me.
I hate to say it, but you've likely missed the gravy train. Still doable but not "printing money" these days. I missed 2005/2006 myself so I didn't get the best of it either, very tough these days. The learning curve has steepened exponentially over the last two years and I only see it getting worse. If you want to play, learn Pot Limit Omaha instead of holdem.
Especially not a new trader.
Lots of junior trading jobs going, thou lots of competition for them. I would say for a smaller firm your poker experience would be a plus. A bank would probably not look at it so favourably
http://seek.com.au/JobSearch/index.ascx?catindustry=1203&DateRange=999&Keywords=trader
As far as Prop Shops you could look at Propex Or Aliom.
Where would you look at these jobs ? Are they advertised or better of speaking with a recruiter. ..
No profit = no money.
I haven't hear of a prop shop allowing you to take money that you haven't earned. Especially not a new trader.
Oh and you will also have to pay monthly desk costs (just like office rent) and other costs depending on what software & data you use.
Just for interests sake, a ball park figure for these costs?
Im negative $60000 today in my ANZ account by accident and not so much as a phone call to let me know
@Aussiest:
Online poker is still profitable but there are a lot of bad signs for its future, I'm just trying to be cautious. First, 6max No Limit holdem started to get very tough, even the smallest stakes were tightening up and getting aggressive. The midstakes games (2-4 thru 5-10) that I was playing were getting tougher so I figured I'd try to outrun the trends and took up heads-up NLHE and Pot Limit Omaha. They were good for a while but everyone caught on very fast which wasn't helped by training sites and "Pokertableratings.com" (which should really be banned in my eyes).
I just keep seeing games get tougher, I'm still beating the stakes I am playing for a good clip but I know I need to start thinking of the future, which looks bleak for a number of reasons. Trading seemed like an obvious step.
And what's that got to do with this thread?
Yes, you can draw on a flat/negative account if they trust you. But as said here, not as a new trader.
Good luck with your search/outcome/trading.
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If they trust you, lots of the big institutions seem to turn a blind eye to flat / negative account balances....eg: comsec and ANZ neither batted an eye lid, yet i nearly had heart failure...
No profit = no money.
I haven't hear of a prop shop allowing you to take money that you haven't earned. Especially not a new trader.
Oh and you will also have to pay monthly desk costs (just like office rent) and other costs depending on what software & data you use.
Yes, you can draw on a flat/negative account if they trust you. But as said here, not as a new trader.
Good luck with your search/outcome/trading.
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