Bill M
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The prospectus on SBKHB is f'n hopeless I have decided. I know it is a 90 BBSW, 0.75% margin, pays interest so no franking credit. I can't see anything on their obligations should they ever choose to buy back - acknowledging they are perpetual?
MXUPA looking to break out if it can close where it is now. Will be a yearly high, albeit on low volume
Hi Bill, only just found this thread. I bought some CBAPA probably around the same time as you in Feb. I am interested in your logic as to their likely price increase? Thanks.
Where do you get your MXUPA information on? It is hard for me to tell how risky they actually are, so I am not overweight in them... despite thinking that , at this price, it probably is a good idea.
Are you suggesting that they tend to dump a bit harder than necessary? I am not too sure what you mean. I would sell them at the right price if the opportunity arose. Any info on this "arb" would be helpful.holding CBAPA.
out of interest, I read that a slight arb can be had on the FF hybrids after ex-date, as many buyers are OS ( therefore franking credits are irrelevant, ie not available to them).
I have observed this to generally be the case, but unfortunately, a largish trade carried across a few days would probably be needed to make it worthwhile, and I dont keep that sort of free cash reserve available, also havent analysed the data methodically enough to justify, as yet.
Yea, but, I mean, where do you find up-to-date information? -> in the last 7 years, their balance sheet has greatly changed. I could tell you what the trust has for assets.... but I don't know how secure the distributions are into the future / when conversion is likely / etc.They haven't made it easy to find - the original 2004 prospectus can be found here...
http://brookfield.eprospect.com.au/pdf/pds/sites.pdf
They are highly speculative like ELDPA on the basis of poor interest cover and a perceived dodgy balance sheet.
Yea, but, I mean, where do you find up-to-date information? -> in the last 7 years, their balance sheet has greatly changed. I could tell you what the trust has for assets.... but I don't know how secure the distributions are into the future / when conversion is likely / etc.
TyThis has all the up-to-date info under 'Related Links' on the right hand side...
http://www.au.brookfield.com/investment-platform/sites/2011-key-dates
Yep.It is perpetual, they stepped up on 22/2/2010 and applied a 2% step-up margin from 1/4/2010 to the 90BBSW
Cheers.so depending who you read, redemption seems unlikely as even at ~10.5% return general group-think has it they will consider it cheap money and are unlikely to seek redemption.
The $450m raised through MXUPA was loaned to Brookfield Australia Property Trust, so the performance of BAPT is what you have to pay attention to.
There you go, MXUPA up $5 in the last 2 days.
Even if it makes it to $90.90, that is still:
4.9+3.9 = 8.8 *1.1 = 9.7%...*AND* with the 10% potential upside when it gets redeemed....
So, I won't be selling into this strength... I wonder what casued this strength tho?
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SVWPA creeping up as I thought they would. When they converted people were selling at $85, gee I love doom and gloom. Today finished up at $93.40.
This ones in the bag, sold today at $96.09. It goes ex dividend tomorrow I think.
All in all I was happy with this one. Now if the price falls more than $4 when it goes ex dividend I might buy them back, what's next?
That divi is actually $3.49 according to the 5th May announcement, definitely very good.Bought in at $85.803 average. Happy to continue to hold SVWPA and get the $2.4154 dividend on May 31. If it drops $4 will probably top up, as seems a good long term hold.
That divi is actually $3.49 according to the 5th May announcement, definitely very good.
Looked at these some time ago but didn't pull the trigger...
According to Iress the last 2 dividends were paid out
$3.7128 on 20 Dec (ex)
$3.2655 on 17 Jun (ex)
If you bought say start of year at ~$55 you've got 12.5% yield (and 25% capital gain).
Meanwhile the share price of PPX is still languishing at 90% below their 2007 peak.
It may be possible to play this arbitrage - buy PXUPA and short PPX. But not sure you can easily short PPX and you are toasted if they get a takeover or something like that.
I would have thought the sigh of relief that GNSPA holders heaved when GNS affirmed that it was paying a dividend would have pushed GNSPA back up to $75.
No, no it does not mean that.Just to confirm, if GNS (or for that matter PPX) said it would not pay the dividend on its common stock, does this also mean it would suspend payments on its hybrids?
Apologies - a bit new to hybrids but fascinated.
This ones in the bag, sold today at $96.09. It goes ex dividend tomorrow I think.
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