If there is a possibility in the first place, but there is not until it is shown
Each individual human is entitled to assume as he/she likes, but assumptions are not facts.
And "string theory" we are not dealing in theory, absolute facts only, not fairy tales
possibilities are not shown ---- they are endless ----- and even when a possibility appears to have been exhausted, there is every chance that the conclusion is in fact incorrect --
biggest mistake humans make in my opinion is putting limits on possibilities !!
mmm --- ok --- absolute facts ---- so how do you get from theory to fact?
Happy,God thing was worked around with 1065 replies so far, so I will refrain from adding another slant on the issue there.
However I wander how does it happen that a person is/becomes an atheist?
As 8 years old bloke asked my father if there is crowd in the sky with all the gods?
At the time I read books about Native American gods, ancient Egypt gods, gods in India, Japan.
This is earth as seen from Mars...thats you just to the left.
What goes on in our minds about how we undestand ouselves and our world is amazing stuff.
Interestingly, the chances of an atheist being elected as the President of the USA (or PM of Australia) are very slim.
That tells me, there are a lot of fence sitters out there.
If we reject atheism we are left with another question, which god is real?
just following on from that theme, heres a little scenario for those who have trouble thinking outside the circle---
Werner Arber and his mates wake up one morning and exclaim "we can now permanently stop the degeneration of human DNA from viral attack" etc etc ----
Werner gets on the blower to Jack Szostak and his mates who can now concoct cell membranes out of fatty acids and nucleotides at will ---- hell, they'll even clone your mother in law--- too easy !!
The boyz have an idea ---- They borrow a space rocket from Nassa (with Obamas permission of course) ---
they email John Archibald Wheeler; Johnno who recently flew to Mars for the weekend through a Wormhole has now perfected space travel through his studies of nuclear fission and the S-matrix
They set up a conglomeration of test tubes with various adaptations of cloned molecular constituents resembling various life forms on earth ---- bung them on the rocket, and fire the rocket to Planet X in a distant galaxy via an available wormhole -- (bit like Noahs ark on a galactic scale )
The rocket lands in a distant galactic swamp, where the various cloned lifeforms begin to reproduce and "evolve" ---
a few thousand years later, species have evolved, chaos has become ordered through natural selection and a "society" has been born --- yay!!
The higher life forms (which were created in our image) start to question where they came from --- we occasionally send the odd "hint" to their planet to indicate that they are not the only life form in the universe --- after all, its pretty easy to get dejected about your existence when your friends are all dying from strange diseases that seem to appear out of nowhere !!
Here on earth we continue to monitor our "experiment", but basically keep our distance --- we drop the odd new viral plague on Planet X so the higher life forms can hopefully learn how to look after themselves and "their" world ---
As they come to understand and comprehend the complexity of life, many start to assume ownership of this knowledge cause it makes them feel superior -- (atheistic stance)
Many others simply cant or wont try to fathom the complexities and conclude "god did it" (Godders stance)
In the above scenario ---- Werner Arber, Jack Szostak and John Archibald Wheeler will in fact collectively BE "God" to many of the inhabitants of Planet X !! ----
as scientists get closer to undiscovered truths (stopping/reversing disease and ageing ), perhaps man will become a god to his own galactic experiments --- food for thought perhaps (chew well b4 swallowing!!)
now back to my wormhole :aliena:
and/or the possibilities of "String Theory"??
One can reject atheism without believing in God. One can simple be agnostic.
As to which God is real? Mine, and if you don't believe it I will kill you!!(jk)
Seriously, if a God/whatever exists, and he/she/it wanted us to know exactly what it looked like it would have done so.
If we reject all anthropomorphic Gods on the basis of what is discussed in this thread, there becomes a massive void of ideas... or a massive infinity of ideas, depending on ones imagination.
In other words, who the hell knows. My guess is (and I'm not an atheist) NONE!
I've had the opposite experience. But it might have been that mushroom omelette I had, dunno."Know" is an interesting point, we know what we see, hear and feel, with scepticism what we are told or read. From my view I "know" that a higher spirit has not breached these lines.
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