High-Tech Mobile Speed Cameras Hit NSW Roads

[Bill M]

I drive the F3 from the Central Coast to Sydney most days of the week and I reckon it's about time some of these cameras have come into use. I stick to the speed limit of 110 kms per hour all the time and on each trip I do I must have hundreds of cars pass me at 120 to 140 kms per hour. They put everybodys life in danger and when accidents do happen it is usually catastrophic. Tailgating, no indicating is common practice. The quicker we get these speeding morons off the road the better.

From The Daily Telegraph.
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Speed check ... The high-tech Ford Territory is fitted with a speed camera, infrared flash and a touch-screen control unit. A sign will tell motorists their speed has been checked.

They can fine six drivers every second.

Full Story at this link.
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[overit]

Re: Hight-Tech Mobile Speed Cameras Hit NSW Roads

Just another cash grab disguised as safety!

Fines for 4km/h over limit

EXCLUSIVE

THE Roads and Traffic Authority is considering plans to reduce the amount of leeway given to speeding motorists to as low as 4 km/h, according to senior police.

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Driving fines are expected to rise by $137 million in the next year, partially because of mobile speed cameras, the state budget reported.

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One senior Sydney policeman told The Sun-Herald, on condition of anonymity, that a 4 km/h tolerance was so small that a new set of tyres or the width of a speedometer needle could land motorists on the wrong side of the law. He said some radars had an error margin of plus or minus 3 km/h, while most police allowed a margin of 8 or 9 km/h at 60 km/h.

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"The width of some needles is equivalent to 3 km/h," the policeman said. "Then you have things like parallax error [when an instrument's read-out differs depending on the angle at which it's viewed].

"It's all about the ability of the punter to drive their car and to be able to clearly and precisely read their instrument. I'm an advocate for road safety but I'm also very wary of applying a standard to the general motorist that they can't possibly comply with."

 

[DB008]

Re: Hight-Tech Mobile Speed Cameras Hit NSW Roads

I drive the F3 from the Central Coast to Sydney most days of the week and I reckon it's about time some of these cameras have come into use. I stick to the speed limit of 110 kms per hour all the time and on each trip I do I must have hundreds of cars pass me at 120 to 140 kms per hour. They put everybodys life in danger and when accidents do happen it is usually catastrophic. Tailgating, no indicating is common practice. The quicker we get these speeding morons off the road the better.

I would have to totally disagree on that. Whilst in Germany several years ago, my partner at the time was driving on the Autobahn at 200kms per hour and l didn't find it dangerous at all. In fact l feel asleep for a while it was that smooth.
The AutoBahn's are built for that (unlike here in Oz). Drivers are also taught to handle that speed.

More should be spent on fixing out roads, educating drivers with defensive driver courses and also teaching them how to handle a vehicle at high speed, like Germany. Speed is NOT the enemy, unable to handle it is.

There was a story on this on the "Sunday Night" on Channel 7 show a few months ago. Very good article about young drivers. I did a google search but couldn't find it. Maybe you should also have a look at it.


http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/article/7423015/mark-skaife-more-information/

 

[moXJO]

Re: Hight-Tech Mobile Speed Cameras Hit NSW Roads

. I stick to the speed limit of 110 kms per hour all the time and on each trip .[/B]

Are you sure you're not the guy doing 80 in a 110 zone
Bad roads and driver education is more to blame then speed.




IMO NSW Govt rips enough hidden fees through sneaky taxes or fines out of us. NSW Labor needs to be lined up against the wall and shot. I'm sick of their dodgy governing and total mismanagement of the taxpayers money. Tearing more money out of people just hammers another nail in the coffin.

 

[overit]

Re: Hight-Tech Mobile Speed Cameras Hit NSW Roads

IMO NSW Govt rips enough hidden fees through sneaky taxes or fines out of us. NSW Labor needs to be lined up against the wall and shot. I'm sick of their dodgy governing and total mismanagement of the taxpayers money. Tearing more money out of people just hammers another nail in the coffin.

Dont just save your rage for the NSW grubymint. QLD are continuing to rape and pillage the general citizen aswell. Also I have had my first close encounter with a red light speed camera since moving to the territory. What a grubby piece of revenue raising this is!

Queensland Parliament E-Petitions.

Queensland residents draw to the attention of the House the Government's proposal to double the cost of Queensland Drivers Licences to more than $150, making Queensland licences the most expensive in the Nation. These changes, along with hikes in vehicle registration costs, the new State fuel tax, and above CPI increases for tolls make Queensland the most expensive State in Australia to be a motorist.

Your petitioners, therefore, request the House to oppose this massive increase in Queensland Drivers Licence charges.

 

[many@k]

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You probably trade like you drive; Passive and weak!

 

[Bill M]

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I would have to totally disagree on that.

There was a story on this on the "Sunday Night" on Channel 7 show a few months ago. Very good article about young drivers. I did a google search but couldn't find it. Maybe you should also have a look at it.

I saw that program too, quite interesting. They pointed out that our younger drivers were driving much older and unsafer cars than their German peers. Also in Germany the parents are not allowed to teach their kids. The kids had to be professionally trained and in their tests had to demonstrate stopping a vehicle at speeds of 200 kph.

Unfortunately we have to deal with what we got. Why someone has to tailgate another car at 110 kph and then overtake erratically at higher speeds is beyond me. Why would someone think another car will go faster if they tailgate them dangerously? Why do Aussie drivers do this? The sooner turkeys like that get caught/fined and lose their points and get off the road the better I think.

Are you sure you're not the guy doing 80 in a 110 zone !

I was worried about this so tested my speedo against the GPS unit. I was out by 6 kph and now adjust my speed accordingly and stick to my 110 kph.
I know what you mean though and that was in that program too, slow drivers hogging the right lane illegally, very frustrating and should again be policed more.

You probably trade like you drive; Passive and weak!

I don't trade, I invest and receive passive income, retired already.

 

[namrog]

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Why worry about the hoons driving like crazy, let em keep going until they kill themselves, it's called natural selection where the stupid and dangerous are wiped out to greater benefit of humanity.

Unfortunately, over the last couple of decades, so many rules and regulations have been imposed on the general population in the guise of safety that nobody asked or voted for, which is supposed to protect the stupid from them selves , but in reality is simple revenue raising...

I think NSW speed limits are far too slow as it is, and would prefer to see my rego and tax spent on improving road conditions than on speed cameras.

It's just another step in becoming a police state, as they chip away at our freedoms little by little......

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

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I think the speed limits are way too low in Australia.

100kph or 110kph on a major highway is pure revenue collection if you can be over by the width of your speed needle.

I agree with 50 or 40kph where there are lots of young children about.

Even 60kph on major roads is too slow imho.

If they banned all the slow drivers and caravans Australian roads would be a much safer place on which to drive. Slow drivers cause more accidents than fast, and cause more speed fines because you have to overtake the buggers.

Don't get me started on caravans. They should all be black with silver rails down the side, then they really would resemble hearses, which would be appropriate.

gg

 

[Julia]

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Why worry about the hoons driving like crazy, let em keep going until they kill themselves, it's called natural selection where the stupid and dangerous are wiped out to greater benefit of humanity.

We may not care if they kill themselves. Unfortunately they will kill and/or maim many innocent road users in the process.

 

[namrog]

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We may not care if they kill themselves. Unfortunately they will kill and/or maim many innocent road users in the process.

What you say is correct , and no doubt some innocent people will be maimed or killed, and that will unfortunately be the case regardless of what rules are applied or technology used..
How many in proportion to the idiots themselves is hard to say, but in my experience and I have been driving for 35 years, I would guess that 90 % or more, of those known to me, who were injured or killed in car accidents were themselves responsible....

Letting nature take care of things, is how the human race has evolved where the dangerous have mostly fallen , and the competent survived.

I see it as giving up more of our freedoms to save the stupid from themselves, and another waste of tax payers money really.....

 

[awg]

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There is a spot on the Pacific Highway at Belmont NSW, that the radar police frequent.

They were there EVERY day a for a week recently.

Reason: it is the easiest place in the world for them to get mass bookings.

Exactly 75 metres short of the 80km zone, starting a long straight uphill climb, they hide behind bushes just after a curve.

Motorists coming the other way cant really warn you, due to the layout.

Its as safe as any part of the highway, and I have never seen an accident there in 30 years, it would be almost impossible to crash there.

It is also very hard not to get on the accelerator, myself, wife and son all drive past the damm thing, she has been done twice, I regard it entirely as a blatant road tax ( in this instance).

I dont mind at all if they put them at blackspots, but they almost always seem to put them where it is easiest for the police to safely get the highest number in the least amount of time

With the F3, is a very tricky road to drive on at times, can be exceedingly dangerous in bad weather or traffic conditions, but also amenable to smooth motoring in good conditions

 

[overit]

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Raising the next generation of cash cows! I am sure I was only allowed 3 faults when I did mine 13years ago. How times have changed.

Learner drivers can speed up to five times and still pass test

* July 12, 2010 11:00PM

LEARNER drivers will be allowed to speed up to five times during their driving test and still pass under a new testing regime in Queensland.

Speeding was the leading cause of death on Queensland roads in the past year but it will continue to be permitted during the practical tests following a state government review of the assessment process.

The new criteria, coming into effect next Monday, means drivers can travel at up to 5km/h over the limit on five occasions during the 30-minute test.

At present they are allowed to exceed the limit by up to 9 per cent three times during a test, before failing.

The Queensland driver test also allows examinees to stall six times before failing, steer with one hand on six occasions and fail to indicate six times. Drivers can also fail to start the engine five times and pass.

 

[pilots]

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What bugs me here in Perth we have 40,50,60,70 80,90,100,110kms, I spend most of the time looking for speed signs and radar traps, when I should be looking at the road.

 

[awg]

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ok, we have enjoyed having the new private speed camera parked in the 70km zone at Bennets Green on the Pacific Hwy, every day for over 2 weeks.

It is not a blackspot at all, but a very short 70km zone, between two 80km zones, have lived there over 30yrs, maybe 1 fatal, very few accidents, its a safe bit of road, not a blackspot. High traffic flow though.

I can think of several spots that are 100 times more dangerous including Bucketts Way, Toronto, and F3

Grey 4wd, very low visibility, straight out revenue raiser

 

[Smurf1976]

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Don't get me started on caravans. They should all be black with silver rails down the side, then they really would resemble hearses, which would be appropriate.

With comments like that, you could find yourself hosting a certain well known motoring program...