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All amounts. Try to buy some for immediate delivery into your own hand Monday.
It has proved to me that JPM are watching what I say at all times as all my calls (all of them) go the other way.
Right, of the two possibilities:
1. Your gold calls are consistently wrong because your entire investment hypothesis is wrong
2. JPM is watching your gold calls here on ASF and moving markets against you,
The second one is eminently more feasible.
Why is it a "short term" uptrend
Its been going up for the last decade.
We really need to be looking at the $1,560 range right now.
Sure some sell stops will be pressed, as in Fridays trade, but no one is asleep at the wheel here.
Unlike three weeks ago when it crashed, that was just so stupid.
And to hear all the idiots come out of the little door in the Cookoo Clock bleating "end of bull run for gold"
Really stupid.
Why?
Because its not the end of any "bull run" for gold.
I don't know if anyone noticed by what it is is the end of the Bull run for the US $ over the last 40 years.
Darn interesting read Z! It is a real breath of fresh air reading someting that lacks BS and hype!
I'm a bit out of the loop when it comes to the gold situation so excuse me if this is a stupid question...
Perth mint is selling 1oz gold bars for $1465. 10oz bars for $14376. The spot price is currently $1430. All in AUD.
So when you say the spot price is no longer the price of real gold. What do you mean?
Are you saying that the advertised bars from perth mint aren't in stock? And therefore if you want physical today you'll need to pay above perth mint rates to acquire it from someone else?
Is this just for small amounts though? Or for all quantities of gold? If the shortage is only on small quantities, then is that really a gold shortage, or just a temporary shortage in a specific form of gold? What form of gold do you consider "real gold" ie. coins, 1oz bars, 400oz bars?
So I'd argue that the coin market is not the price of real gold.
ABSOLUTELY! It is a market unto itself that while it is derivative of the gold market it very much needs to be understood on its own merits. Some coins have a value so far in excess of the gold content that POG matters little, most bullion coins are far more connected, but some like ASE's are a cut above others.... based purely on supply v sentiment!
If you want gold buy ugly blocks of it, it the end, when this market peaks the premium will disappear on most product and so much suspect stuff will be around that everything sold to a mint will be on a "melt and assay basis", spot - X, X depending on supply. History has taught us that much
The short position in both gold and silver is now so huge, it won't take much to push the shorts into a buying panic. I have been looking for possible triggers that could panic the shorts, and we got a hint last week of one possible event which may do this. Because of various problems, there have been news reports that Barrick is considering what to do with its huge Pascua-Lama deposit after a Chilean court ordered it to stop development work.
The project is already well behind schedule, with big cost overruns from its initial plan, but here's the important point: The market has been expecting that when production begins, the mine would produce 800,000 ounces of gold and 35 million ounces of silver annually. Those ounces will of course never materialize if development work remains suspended.
But also consider that according to its 31 March 2013 financial report, Barrick has hedged 65 million ounces of silver, which is 8% of the world's annual silver production. What is the bullion bank, who sold that hedge to Barrick, going to do if those 65 million ounces don't get mined and delivered to it?
What is Barrick going to do if the bullion bank forces it to deliver physical silver to close the hedge? What are the shorts in silver going to do when they realize that there is a potential time bomb here that could substantially reduce the near-term forecast of silver supply?
In other words, it is pure insanity to be short silver here, and for that matter, gold as well. Round two of the buying panic may be just around the corner when the paper shorts rush to the exits. They will learn the age-old and time-proven adage about the precious metals, namely, that it is easy to sell gold and silver in large quantities, but very, very difficult to buy in size."
The short position in both gold and silver is now so huge,.....
Ha! I think what you consider as facts is not what the rest of the sane world does. But carry on....., James Turk I have felt makes his case sensibly and backed by facts.
I don't think that we are really at an extreme, not at least in the data I am looking at! The commercials are as close to net long as they have been in a while and while the total OI is high in Silver its not really record breaking in Gold. At least that is what I am looking at, anyone got better data? Got a chart explod? What exactly is he referring too? COT looks bullish, but it is not a good market timing tool!
Gold equities are not expecting anything big to happen any time soon, or at least they are not pre-empting another surge in the POG?
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