chops_a_must
Printing My Own Money
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Since the summer we have experienced a sharp rise in demand for certain gold products. The one-kilo bar has become very popular," said Fiorenzo Arbini, in charge of health and safety at Pamp, another large Swiss refiner.
"People used to buy certificates, now they want physical gold."
Schnellmann said the Argor-Heraeus smelter is operating at full capacity, three eight-hour shifts a day. Conquering the backlog by hiring is difficult, because each candidate has to undergo a security check.
Gold refiners were established in Switzerland to supply the watch industry and, later, jewellery-makers in Italy.
Switzerland's largest banks stepped in to replace a void in gold trading while the London gold market was shut after World War Two and again during a brief closure in 1968.
The former Soviet Union, another top gold producer, chose Zurich banks to handle most of its gold sales in the 1970s and 1980s.
"Gold has an image of being the asset of last resort. This could be viewed as old-fashioned but this is how enough people with enough money to matter think," said Stephen Briggs, a metals strategist at RBS Global Banking & Markets.
Yes, but with it's recent declines, and the rise of the USD, it was obviously being viewed, by the movers and shakers, as too risky due to the risk of deflation.
Now perhaps, sentiment is changing to a purely currency destruction play, exactly the debate amongst these traders, who ultimately, are the kind of guys who decide whether or not gold will break back above it's highs anytime soon.
Should be good to watch play out. It's definately back on my radar now, especially if it can form an uptrend (form a HH and HL).
The problem with the hypothesis Cuttle, is that the currency being destroyed is the one of the nation that holds a whole heap of the world's wealth... and produces, or at least, still owns the production of most of the world.
I would imagine our currency and other 'unencumbered' currencies would experience a massive short, sharp run on our currency as it is transferred into to AUD to then buy hard assets.
And in that case, we may experience some enormous inflations in everything here.
But hey... we've never been here before... so who knows?
My point was that although most of the world's production and wealth generating capacity is not in the US, it is still owned by the US.In relation to productivity - measurement of it is very dependant on the currency its measured in. Are ten chinese factory workers on $US 1/hour (probably less) producing less than 1 US factory worker on $US 20.hour?
My point was that although most of the world's production and wealth generating capacity is not in the US, it is still owned by the US.
Funnily enough, the autos.If that is the case, then the US currency should in theory continue to remain strong - but is it true? What non-US based wealth generating assets does the US own?
Funnily enough, the autos.
They make money everywhere else but the US.
MacDonalds, Coke... heaps.
And I agree, none of it is productive.
Now perhaps, sentiment is changing to a purely currency destruction play.
Currency destruction and inflation go hand in hand.
Are these guys holding physical gold or trading futures contracts?
I said deflation, not inflation. Futures.
Bankit, could be further inflation, but until that time, I wouldn't bet on it personally.
Yeah I realised that. My point was that if you have a deflationary viewpoint, I don't see how you reconcile that with a currency destruction viewpoint - to me currency destruction cannot occur without inflation occurring directly alongside it.
Ah k. I get you.
Yes, my version of currency destruction, is a complete blowup of the financial system as we know it. Or at least, fear that may happen........
Mate... the Perth Mint completely stopped the delivery of a lot of products until the end of January.It'll be interesting to see whether the current hype about a decoupling between the physical and paper market is real or just a beatup. There's probably a shortage of demand for small oz bars and coins but thats just retail investor demand and probably not a true measure of what is going on in the physical gold market.
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