Knobby22
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When nearly every member of a newspaper is told to attack one party its not a good look.
Murdoch bragged about how he got Tony Blair in, do you think that was fair?
So how is it worse to have a newspaper taking the government to task, than have a government that enacts policy that the electors haven't voted on? Am I missing something, or is an action causing a counter reaction.
I get to read all the regular writers and they are mostly deep thinking. From Costello and Vanstone(She's very good) to a wide disporia of others. That's what papers should strive to be!
Those from the northern states don't get the chance to compare. I don't like it when an agenda is run and I am fed propaganda disquised as news.
OK, well I disagree. I think - on balance - The Age is left leaning and I am not alone in that opinion. Do you read the Herald Sun? Do you think that paper has any political bias? What about the The Australian?
When nearly every member of a newspaper is told to attack one party its not a good look.
Murdoch bragged about how he got Tony Blair in, do you think that was fair?
Yes I read the Herald Sun. It has opne resident lefty who is a mindless fool (that women who was on TV) and I don't mind Terry Macrann but its pretty empty of opinion content but is not afraid to lie in the headline and correct it about six paragraphs down. Its not as overt as the Australian but keeps pushing the aims of Newscorp.
The problem is that it doesn't try to be fair.
I get to read all the regular writers and they are mostly deep thinking. From Costello and Vanstone(She's very good) to a wide disporia of others..
I assumed Knobby meant 'diaspora', though I'm not sure how that really fits either.What the hell is a disporia? Are they the loony lefties?
If a paper was fairly evenly balanced with it's presentation of issues then you could say it is independent, but when it's obviously leans on way or another then it can't really be called independent. The Age has a left bias so the editorial policy can't be called independent.
Oh come on, give the guy a break, he comes from middle earth.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Do you mean 'independent'. Tell me what you think it means?
In the context of the media "not subject to external influence".
...With Gina we know what she wants precisely and she is not afraid to twist the arm of the next government to get it.!!
Gina makes money through her royalties and the coming mining operations not news papers.
Gina is not interested in making money in news papers fact is no one is making much in news any more.
Gina is interested in investing $50 mil for billions in return i.e. punching governments around for greater advantage in her mining operations thats where she makes money rememeber.
Just like Lang tried with Charlie Court......difference is Charlie was a real Liberal and told him to Fu(k off.
So end game is she buys the best Coalition money can afford, owns a TV station and News operation and runs her agenda and you lot say good on her.
This is not left / right argument its actually a national interest argument..........remember Charlie Court WA state premier was an absolute die in the wool hard nose Liberal and he had common sense to see Langs agenda for what it was.
Malcolm Turnbull has chipped in.I do think though that Tony Abbott will call her bluff and will not be unduly influenced however.
In that sense if Rinehart's objective is to exercise influence it may be at odds with the shareholders' interest in maximising the value of the company.
So it is not unreasonable for the board to say to her: if you want to exercise editorial control over the company, then make a takeover bid and after you have bought it, it is yours to manage or indeed mismanage to your heart's content.
Of course the proof of the pudding is in the eating. If Rinehart took over Fairfax and ran her newspapers in a manner that engendered trust and confidence in readers and advertisers, ensuring that when she wanted to make a particular political point she did so in editorials or opinion pieces as opposed to slanted news coverage, she may be able to achieve political influence without diminishing the credibility, readership and value of the papers.
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