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Just because something is lawful doesn't make it right or ethical. I think many posters would have a lot to say about the carbon tax. It is lawful - but do you automatically agree with it and think it's the right path for Australia?
Let us not be hypocrites here.
Yes, and that is precisely the reason. She does not want to pay the wages which the free market has set, so she buys up media and threatens the government with bad press if they don't grant her the ability to fly in foreign Labor who are willing to work for minimum required wages, undercutting local workers.
I dont see the problem if she cant get people here to go into that hell hole and do a days work, instead of sitting round on the dole smoking weed
If she were denying Australians work I'd agree with you but I cant see how.
She hasnt bought up the media.....yet, if she tried to influence via that means it would be treasonous.
If she is undercutting Australian wages ok but if she's doing this legally all I can say is if it's wrong Gillard would change the law wouldnt she ? she's hateful and vindictive enough to do it.
The Carbon Tax is different
thats an imposition on ALL of us done as only Labor can with utter contempt for public opinion.
Thats also why personal insults against Gillard are understandable because of the anger she has created whereas Rinehart ? she doesnt even give interviews, just acts within the law and makes money.
I don't believe that Swan and Gillard wouldnt stop her in her tracks if she was doing anything to prevent Australians getting work.She is denying Australians work. Don't for a second believe there aren't enough people to work in the mines, just read the importing immigrants thread for stories of how hard it is to get a job for an Aussie miner.
Really, then what do you call The Oz? Should it's editors be sent to federal prison for treason?
Treason is not really a crime in Australia - just look at Mark Arbib.
Oh it's different is it? Is it different because you don't like it? Again, let's not be hypocrites here - you are well aware that the government does a lot of things which are bad for our economy and our people. Importing foreign labour because the country's richest person doesn't feel like paying fair wages is no exception.
I don't believe that Swan and Gillard wouldnt stop her in her tracks if she was doing anything to prevent Australians getting work.
It would be all over the papers and they would try to make big heros out of themselves in the process as usual.
Ok perhaps the wrong word was used but it would be so obvious if the editorials changed after her buying in that the paper would lose all credibility.
Using personal insults against someone who has cost jobs and our surplus is an understandable part of the anger that results BUT using personal insults against Rinehart for going about her business ? She and her kind are keeping us afloat at present and making disparaging remarks about her weight is just childish.
I disagree. Mining employs basically nobody compared to every other industry, and as a result of mining our dollar is greatly speculated upon - and it has been destroying every other industry for a very long time now.
Mining is like a cancer that is destroying our economy form the inside out.
And Gina is not a mere bystander, she is not just going about her business - she approached the government and lobbied (and possibly threatened) them in order for her to be allowed to import foreign labour at a time when our industries are in contraction and people are losing their jobs. I cannot - nor should anyone, look upon this lightly.
There's a lot of problems here. I understand your assertions though, but you must understand that they aren't the populist anti-business types they are cracked up to be. In reality they will take it up the rump from business no different to any other party.
A better perspective is that they wanted to avoid another controversial confrontation with more miners who are far wealthier than the government, and can command far more advertising money to spread their message.
There is no doubt that ALP is either entirely complicit to this or (less likely, but possible) were formally but privately threatened with more media campaigns against them. At a time when their polling is down, they obviously would want to avoid something like that.
Surely you must admit that a great deal of discussion has to have taken place between the government and Rinehart because this happened, what do you imagine they talked about? The fact that there are countless unemployed people in the country looking for work is no secret.
Would it really? It's not something that would happen overnight, but Rinehart is after two seats on Fairfax's board, and there is no question that the message and more importantly spin would, overtime, change.
She was a fine looking lass when she was younger, and she could hold her own still against some of the anorexic old pieces from the ABC, Fairfax and the Greens.
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I still find it hard to believe that Swan and Gillard would forgo a free kick if Rinehart was depriving Aussies of a job, it would be too hard to resist and she (Gillard) would have everyones support.
I realise this, but you incorrectly believe the world to be a good and just place where politicians do the right thing because the people will support them.
In reality they are all corrupt parasites, who dare not upset mining billionaires who can easily spend 100 times more on advertising in every single media medium.
I realise this, but you incorrectly believe the world to be a good and just place where politicians do the right thing because the people will support them.
In reality they are all corrupt parasites, who dare not upset mining billionaires who can easily spend 100 times more on advertising in every single media medium.
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All? This isn't Waziristan and Julia isn't exactly Putin.
Is there any other point of going from one to extreme to the other, other than to illustrate it?
They've already done this with Palmer so thats not a valid argument.
I blame the government.Enough! Lay off each other and stick to discussing the topic of the thread. I am tired of removing off-topic posts. Last warning.
Ha, yeah, ok.Putin has taken all of the money from certain prominent Russian billionaires, put them in jail and nationalised their mining companies. If Gillard did that with Rinehart and Palmer, that would be ****ing awesome.
While I am not suggesting that Putin is not corrupt, I would actually prefer his style of corruption to what goes on in this country. The Australian government is pathetically weak and completely powerless to deliver any good outcome for Australians at all. They are completely and utterly incapable of standing up to billionaires and their corporations which are destroying the country.
Back in Russia, they taxed Yukos until the company went bankrupt and was forced to nationalise. I would love to see that kind of resolve from the Australian government.
I don't mind her and I thought the attack on her on Q&A was appalling. And where are all the feminists, why aren't they standing up for her when people are calling her fat and ugly?
Fairfax could certinly benefit from her expertise on the board - their loss.
Change the title to the Packers, Murdochs, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and there will be similar characteristics.
Anyway... the difference is, whether you were a millionaire or of the hoi polloi, living in Russia, you wouldn't be able to express such an opinion or walk that talk on the streets without fear of being rounded up and thrown in the slammer!
They did indeed. Wayne Swann in particular.I blame the government.
They started this nasty class warfare.
Not once in this thread or in any other which apparently takes so much pleasure in demonising one particular person who brings much employment and wealth to this country can I find any reference to the almost 7000 Australian workers who will be hired amongst this latest project of Ms Rinehart's.
She is running a business, not a welfare agency.
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