Gina Rinehart

basilio · 27 June 2012

Just saw the 4 Corners doco on Gina Rinehart. Certainly gave me something to think about.

She is a ruthless juggernaut. Currently the richest women in Australia and if her mine gets away probably the world.

Her wealth isn't necessarily the problem. The problem is her determination to do whatever it takes to keep and expand her power. When you see what than means in the past its easy to see why we need to protect ourselves.

sptrawler · 27 June 2012

basilio said:
Her wealth isn't necessarily the problem. The problem is her determination to do whatever it takes to keep and expand her power. When you see what than means in the past its easy to see why we need to protect ourselves.

What successful person isn't determined and protect yourself from what?

When Kerry Packer owned a lot of media, how did we manage?
When Kerry O'Brien, constantly harrased the liberals and John Howard, why wasn't there an uproar then.
Just because a hopeless government, is using personal attacks and veiled threats, to try and mitigate abysmal performance. It doesn't follow that everyone has to swallow the politically motivated rhetoric.

What next rich people can't buy shares in any company that can notify the population in any way, be that newspaper, t.v, internet, billboards or any other form of mass media.

numbercruncher · 27 June 2012

I see Palmer is the next Billionaire to pack a sad and threaten to take his bat and ball ....

CLIVE PALMER'S threat to challenge Wayne Swan for his seat of Lilley is beginning to wane, with the billionaire suggesting he may walk away if he fails in his attempt to ban lobbyists serving as Liberal Party office holders.
The Queensland mining magnate met the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, again yesterday, after the pair had a yelling match in Melbourne last week over the change Mr Palmer wants to propose at this week's Liberal Party federal council meeting.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/its-...bott-bustup-20120626-210hp.html#ixzz1yvC03Rfa

Logique · 27 June 2012

basilio said:
Just saw the 4 Corners doco on Gina Rinehart. Certainly gave me something to think about....

Yes interesting. She is one formidable and determined woman. I would not want to get on her bad side.

Calliope · 27 June 2012

Logique said:
Yes interesting. She is one formidable and determined woman. I would not want to get on her bad side.

And as basilio says;

When you see what than means in the past its easy to see why we need to protect ourselves

Yes indeed! Basilio and Cruncher are to be commended for their bravery in trying to expose this evil genius to us. They could end up being marked men. Let's hope their anonymity is never blown.:enforcer:

sails · 27 June 2012

Calliope said:
"I don't knowdo explain" Are you on the booze? And now basilio has joined your hate campaign. You are getting down in the gutter. You are running scared with nothing to offer but childish drivel and envious spite for someone who is considerable smarter than anyone your mob can muster. Grow up!

And this hate campaigner is the same one who has "May peace be with you" in his signature...

Weird.

Calliope · 27 June 2012

sails said:
And this hate campaigner is the same one who has "May peace be with you" in his signature...

Weird.

It is a thinly disguised Orwellian thing:

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

basilio · 27 June 2012

Calliope said:
It is a thinly disguised Orwellian thing:

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

Very, very apt.

Calliope · 27 June 2012

basilio said:
Very, very apt.

Then you and your mate Cruncher are very strong indeed.

joea · 27 June 2012

numbercruncher said:
You dont think that Joea is a fan because of her extreme wealth ? What other reason do you think it is ?

Cant be for how she treats her family , I doubt he is that callous ?

Could be her fearlessness ? That can be a admirable trait ....

He is convinced that she has noble and honest intentions though and I cant work out how one comes to that conclusion.

No I am no particular fan of her or her money.
But if you go back to about January, Wayne Swan has beat up every "rich" private miner. Then the media start on them. To me it appears their basis mistake is they have money.

Basically Swan and the media are upset with them because they will not do what they tells them.

I just think if the situation with the miners and Labor government was not so " explosive" we might get some where.

What would be wrong with getting them together and discuss ( infrastructure, more tax, housing , etc) and sort something out. You just do not get anywhere in the current situation.

To make my point Julia Gillard apparently like "gashing her lips" about $500 billion of investment to be implemented in mining , gas, oil etc. Well with that much investment, someone must get rich.
joea p.s. i can only answer posts early or at the end of the day.
cheers.

IFocus · 27 June 2012

sptrawler said:
What I don't understand, is how come everyone gets up in arms because a person is buying into a newspaper. Yet the same people don't mind a minority government bringing in massive new taxes, without going to an election. It's just stupid.
The government say Gina might have some sway in how the government is portrayed, yet this same government only has 30% public support. That means 70% generally disagree with them, why wouldn't a newspaper reporting reflect that?
The general public make an informed decission on their political bias based on many inputs not just what they read. If anything labor have had a very good run from the media, when you take into consideration their abysmal record.

You can vote a government out but Gina's here for awhile longer.

If you read up on her fathers form then its clear what Gina's intentions could be.

Various UK governments understood the power of the press it can and will move governments.

sptrawler · 27 June 2012

IFocus said:
You can vote a government out but Gina's here for awhile longer.

If you read up on her fathers form then its clear what Gina's intentions could be.

Various UK governments understood the power of the press it can and will move governments.

The press or newspaper in particular, is a dying media, readers and subscriptions are falling.
Lets say the worst happened and Gina got 3 seats on an 8 seat board, no lets say Gina gets 7 seats on an 8 seat board. Then she starts teling everyone what they can and can't write, unless it is unbiased reporting, it only appears attractive to the fanatical supporters.
Then the circulation falls, shareholders dump stock and the paper shuts down.
This fear campaign is just par for course for a flagging government any diversion other than takeit to the people to be judged. What is so hard about that?

banco · 27 June 2012

I get the impression she'd be happy (at least for now) with an unwritten agreement that Fairfax soft pedal it's climate change coverage but maintain the status quo on other stuff.

Julia · 27 June 2012

banco said:
I get the impression she'd be happy (at least for now) with an unwritten agreement that Fairfax soft pedal it's climate change coverage but maintain the status quo on other stuff.

Interesting thought, banco. I hadn't heard that even mentioned. Can you say where the idea came from?

I don't think much of her chances of getting Fairfax journalists to go along with anything other than absolute sycophantic devotion to the notion of AGW.

sptrawler · 27 June 2012

IFocus said:
You can vote a government out but Gina's here for awhile longer.

If you read up on her fathers form then its clear what Gina's intentions could be.

Various UK governments understood the power of the press it can and will move governments.

Well IFocus, it has all turned out a bit funny, the board say they won't give her a seat because they are worried about freedom of journalists.
Then it appears the board in the past have told journalists what to write, one wonders if it's not an old boys club.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/medi...art-fairfax-chairman-says-20120627-211x2.html

Also by Swan and Gillards bleating, they may be members.IMO One has to question who the baddies are here.

banco · 27 June 2012

Julia said:
Interesting thought, banco. I hadn't heard that even mentioned. Can you say where the idea came from?

I don't think much of her chances of getting Fairfax journalists to go along with anything other than absolute sycophantic devotion to the notion of AGW.

Most of her press releases have focused on climate change and even Gina Rinehart must realise that getting Fairfax to do a 180 on all of their editorial positions isn't practical. If there was a gentleman's agreement editors could spike stories and move them from page 1 to page 13.

joea · 28 June 2012

sptrawler said:
Also by Swan and Gillards bleating, they may be members.IMO One has to question who the baddies are here.

Once upon a time, in the good old days, the media edited the news. Now they want to "forecast" the news
or politics in such a way that they are attempting to give future direction to history(or news).

Once upon a time in the good old days, policy was compiled by a party in the party room, made public, debated in the lower
house and then voted on.
NOW, Labor leaks some words to the media about a policy (that has not been fully compiled), challenge the Opposition to pass it, then get the s**ts" because it did not happen. Then they take it to a personal level.

Labor government is "DICTATORIAL", and that that's.

I believe the "goodies and the baddies" need to understand the word "COMPROMISE". And throw in some integrity for good measure.
joea

drsmith · 28 June 2012

It might do them good at Fairfax if someone shook their cage a little.

Their live political blog "The Pulse" increasingly became a Labor cheer squad as the afternoon progressed.

sptrawler · 28 June 2012

drsmith said:
It might do them good at Fairfax if someone shook their cage a little.

Their live political blog "The Pulse" increasingly became a Labor cheer squad as the afternoon progressed.

Maybe their obvious labor leanings, are being reflected in their performance.
Being cheerleaders for a party that only has 30% public support, is dumb. I'm suprised by Roger Corbet I thought he had more brains than that, but he has been out of the mainstream cut and thrust of leading edge business.

It is the same scenario as Gina getting control and becomming cheerleader for the Libs, it is the road to nowhere.
Only so many people want to read crap, most want unbiased information to make a balanced judgement. If they can't get that they won't buy the paper. Despite the crap Conroy, Gillard and Brown say.

IFocus · 29 June 2012

sptrawler said:
Maybe their obvious labor leanings,

Paul Sheehan labor leanings since when?

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