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Typical.
Swanning off again while his buddy KRuddy attempts to hold onto his seat...
Harumph!
Yes indeed, and consider this; he had already packed his bags to fly off to the G20 summit in Canada where he was going to meet up with Obama and hobnob with other world leaders. And now the despised Swan is going instead.
From top rooster to feather duster in one fell swoop.
I understand the defection of the NSW Right to Gillard was the final straw for Rudd. But the Unions were in it up to their armpits, Gillard is their girl make no mistake.Powerful unions give me a break.................
Thank you for the vote of confidence IFocus. Greatly appreciated.
I understand the defection of the NSW Right to Gillard was the final straw for Rudd. But the Unions were in it up to their armpits, Gillard is their girl make no mistake.
The Unions say... 'we're not represented in the Caucus'...what no Bill Shorten, no Greg Combe...they take the public for fools. They'll find out on polling day.
Here's the thing about Unions - is it possible to roll up to a Union General Meeting and suggest that the Liberal party be supported, and with Union funds, at the next, or any election? Australians are not so naive as to believe such an unrealistic scenario.
I understand the defection of the NSW Right to Gillard was the final straw for Rudd. But the Unions were in it up to their armpits, Gillard is their girl make no mistake.
The Unions say... 'we're not represented in the Caucus'...what no Bill Shorten, no Greg Combe...they take the public for fools. They'll find out on polling day.
Here's the thing about Unions - is it possible to roll up to a Union General Meeting and suggest that the Liberal party be supported, and with Union funds, at the next, or any election? Australians are not so naive as to believe such an unrealistic scenario.
Great news to have a female PM
Why?
It should be great news to have the best person for the job (if the person is the best). Gender should be irrelevant.
I think you would be suprised at how important gender can be. I'm a swinging female voter, although I have voted Liberal for years, I would personally like to see a female PM succeed.
Now if I'm willing to swing in either direction, there is likely to be many female voters who would not hold Gillard responsible for Rudd's mistakes (rightly or wrongly) and would be willing to give her a go.
Liberals now need to start coming out with some policy.
Why?
It should be great news to have the best person for the job (if the person is the best). Gender should be irrelevant.
I think you would be suprised at how important gender can be. I'm a swinging female voter, although I have voted Liberal for years, I would personally like to see a female PM succeed.
Now if I'm willing to swing in either direction, there is likely to be many female voters who would not hold Gillard responsible for Rudd's mistakes (rightly or wrongly) and would be willing to give her a go.
Liberals now need to start coming out with some policy.
I still can't get over the vicious ruthlessness of how it happened and with what speed. But I reckon had Rudd's and Gillard's positions been reversed, Mr Rudd would not have hesitated for a second to stab Gillard in the back.Yes indeed, and consider this; he had already packed his bags to fly off to the G20 summit in Canada where he was going to meet up with Obama and hobnob with other world leaders. And now the despised Swan is going instead.
From top rooster to feather duster in one fell swoop.
So you don't think the events of the last two days were engineered by the factions and the unions? You don't think Julia Gillard is going to be owing the unions big time after they all swung in behind her and ensured Kevin Rudd was pushed out in the most humiliating way?Powerful unions give me a break.................
That's a very fair comment, except that Ms Gillard's characteristics and policies are hardly unknown to the electorate, so a measure of judgement about her likely performance is not unreasonable.It's no secret that the unions put everything they have at labours disposal, so what ? it's called looking after their own interests, absolutely no different than the employers union and big business falling in behind the conservatives / liberals...
Did anyone listen to her acceptance speech today, it was very inclusive, and she exhibited leadership qualities straight away that havent been seen in this country since Hawke, and those that are most pissed off right now are those who saw an easy election win over a wooden man, including the members of this forum of which the majority are severe right wingers, as per the begrudging remarks and comments read here ...
Isn't it the Aussie way to give someone a chance, and if she is no good, then vote her out, job done....fair go !!!!
I agree, but that's the Labor Machine at its best.I am not a fan of the man, but I am a lesser fan of the way he was ousted. What an extraordinary day, not a 'fair go' by any stretch of the Australian way.
Great news to have a female PM, but what a crap way to achieve it.
Why do you care what gender she is? I'm also female and I simply want the best person for the job, regardless of gender. I don't believe she will attract the votes of too many women just on the basis that she's female.I think you would be suprised at how important gender can be. I'm a swinging female voter, although I have voted Liberal for years, I would personally like to see a female PM succeed.
SM Junkie, aside from his supercilious attitude, his mistakes have to be claimed by Ms Gillard also. She was part of the kitchen cabinet of four (Rudd, Swan, Gillard, Tanner) who - leaving other senior and more experienced members out in the cold) made all the major decisions.Now if I'm willing to swing in either direction, there is likely to be many female voters who would not hold Gillard responsible for Rudd's mistakes (rightly or wrongly) and would be willing to give her a go.
Looks like we had a change of leadership due to the power of mining companies,why not just let the head of say BHP run the showBeen taken over by the powerful unions. Govt by the unions for the unions. And now they have their nominee in the Lodge.
The western world has long since been at that point... Thatcher, Clarke, several state/province premiers etc. Plus several female captains of industry. They have even had female leaders in the east, Meir, Bhutto, Aquino etcAgree absolutely. Great news that the best person (according to the party) is a female.
It is an acknowledgement that society has come a looong way since we had allowed our girls to vote.
As it happens, IMO Dullard is the first female involved in Australian federal politics even remotely capable of leading the country thus far.I wouldnt suggest that the best up till now have co-incidentally been all male WayneL.
The western world has long since been at that point... Thatcher, Clarke, several state/province premiers etc. Plus several female captains of industry. They have even had female leaders in the east, Meir, Bhutto, Aquino etc
It is no longer a novelty.
As it happens, IMO Dullard is the first female involved in Australian federal politics even remotely capable of leading the country thus far.
Who else would you have suggested? Bishop? Kelly? LOL
The western world has long since been at that point... Thatcher, Clarke, several state/province premiers etc. Plus several female captains of industry. They have even had female leaders in the east, Meir, Bhutto, Aquino etc
It is no longer a novelty.
As it happens, IMO Dullard is the first female involved in Australian federal politics even remotely capable of leading the country thus far.
Who else would you have suggested? Bishop? Kelly? LOL
I,m all for it.
As a male taxpayer i must say that im going to much prefer getting screwed by Gillard than i did from Rudd
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Well if she's no good the public will turf out labour in about 3+ months time anyway....
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