Gay Marriage

sydboy007 · 27 August 2015

so the daily terror has been caught out lying again. Just a giant media beat up over something the parents of the school were fully aware of and supportive off

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...complaints-from-parents-about-gayby-baby-film

“The school has not received any complaints from Burwood girls high school parents,” the department said in a statement.

Cath Sefton, whose daughter attends the school, described the episode as a “total beatup”. “What the school is doing as part of Wear it Purple Day ... actually has nothing to do with gay marriage,” she said. “It’s about respect for diversity, about people who are different from you.

“One of the best things about the school is is teaches people to respect other people. It’s been going on for several years and suddenly it’s hit the headlines.”

Nor was she concerned that the film was being screened during school hours, pointing out the school had been visited during class time on Monday by the foreign minister, Julie Bishop. “She wasn’t there to talk about politics, she was there to talk as a woman, to young women,” she said.

“If they gave up time to hear from Julie Bishop, I’d be delighted for them to give up time to see this film too.”

Statement from Burwood girls high school prefects:

The Prefects of BGHS wish to express their disappointment at the media coverage of the school’s intended showing of the documentary Gayby Baby.

As Burwood girls, we pride ourselves on our support of diversity - in whatever form it takes.

Throughout the year we partake in multiple events which aim to support and celebrate the diversity of our school community as a collective.

These include International Day- which celebrates our multicultural community- this year raising $15,000 for international charities, an annual Iftar dinner to support out Islamic community, and Lunar New Year celebrations to support our Asian community, amongst a range of others.

We consider ourselves leaders in the push for equality and acceptance - for all people.

When it is considered that the LGBTIQ community has the highest rates of suicide of any population in Australia and experience significantly higher rates of mental health issues, we consider our support to be just one small step in creating better understanding in the community.

We are a proud school.
We are proud of our culture.
And we are proud of the leadership our school shows in supporting all views and the right for all people to be accepted.

sydboy007 · 27 August 2015

SirRumpole said:
For what ?

that children were exploited, that the movie is dishonest with the way the children are portrayed.

In the internet age if you spoon fed some kids it would come out pretty quickly. Secrets don't tend to last too long these days.

You're quick to claim your voice is being blocked from being heard, but quick to dismiss the voice of anyone who doesn't agree with you on this topic.

SirRumpole · 27 August 2015

sydboy007 said:
that children were exploited, that the movie is dishonest with the way the children are portrayed.

In the trailer for the film that was shown, the kids didn't look more than about 10. To believe that they were able to make an independent judgement of their situation when they were still dependent on their carers for the necessities of life is a long stretch. They would be parrotting what their carers told them to say, and were therefore exploited for the cause.

Tink · 28 August 2015

It was stopped in school hours in NSW, Syd, but available out of school hours.
Good on them, politics shouldn't be pushed in the school curriculum.

They had no say here in Vic with dictator Dan - Labor/Greens.
State control over the parents in public schools.
I think it is for both, primary and secondary here.

Labor/Greens are the first to call out racist, discrimination and whatever else but they never look in their own backyard at their unions and the bullying that has been going on.

While Vic is on strike, both trams and trains next week, and they keep adding more debt to our state with nothing to show, he has the gall to talk about Mike Baird.

At least parents had a say in NSW.

noco · 28 August 2015

WHAT ABOUT JULIA?

Which union is the guilty one?

wayneL · 28 August 2015

noco said:
WHAT ABOUT JULIA?

Which union is the guilty one?

Just a transparent hatchet job on Abbott IMO.

SirRumpole · 28 August 2015

wayneL said:
Just a transparent hatchet job on Abbott IMO.

She had to appease the Christian Left of the Labor Party when in office, but now she feels free to support the Sisterhood, lest it interferes with her future job prospects if she didn't.

Tisme · 28 August 2015

noco said:
WHAT ABOUT JULIA?

No longer has the guidance from her father?

Obviously the attacks from Alan Jones and his disgraceful treatment of her and her recently deceased father's name, isn't enough to ingrain negative homophobia...."The old man recently died a few weeks ago of shame" is one of the lowest, uncouth things I have ever heard anyone utter.

Value Collector · 28 August 2015

ok, now that we have a separate thread to discuss the issues of gay parenting, which were a continual red herring on this thread.

Can anyone think of a reason to not allow gay marriage that's not a parenting red herring or a religious reason that is meaningless in our secular society?

SirRumpole · 28 August 2015

Value Collector said:
ok, now that we have a separate thread to discuss the issues of gay parenting, which were a continual red herring on this thread.

Can anyone think of a reason to not allow gay marriage that's not a parenting red herring or a religious reason that is meaningless in our secular society?

It's your opinion that parenting is a red herring, others may not agree.

Value Collector · 28 August 2015

SirRumpole said:
It's your opinion that parenting is a red herring, others may not agree.

It's a red herring when discussing the legality of marriage, people may disagree, but they are wrong. It's called the slippery slope fallacy.

SirRumpole · 28 August 2015

Value Collector said:
It's a red herring when discussing the legality of marriage, people may disagree, but they are wrong. It's called the slippery slope fallacy.

The same "fallacy" that says privatisation of airlines would not lead to reduced passenger safety. Proven false.

Value Collector · 28 August 2015

SirRumpole said:
The same "fallacy" that says privatisation of airlines would not lead to reduced passenger safety. Proven false.

That's not even an example of a slippery slope fallacy.

gay marriage and gay parenting are to different topics, neither relies on the other.

Eg, you can allow gay parenting while still outlawing gay marriage, and you can allow gay marriage while still outlawing gay parenting. Both topics can be legislated separately.

so it's a slippery slope fallacy to say you want one banned, because you fear the other.

sydboy007 · 28 August 2015

Tink said:
It was stopped in school hours in NSW, Syd, but available out of school hours.
Good on them, politics shouldn't be pushed in the school curriculum.

They had no say here in Vic with dictator Dan - Labor/Greens.
State control over the parents in public schools.
I think it is for both, primary and secondary here.

Labor/Greens are the first to call out racist, discrimination and whatever else but they never look in their own backyard at their unions and the bullying that has been going on.

While Vic is on strike, both trams and trains next week, and they keep adding more debt to our state with nothing to show, he has the gall to talk about Mike Baird.

At least parents had a say in NSW.

So when the royals visit a school it should be out of school hours?

Religious studies also out of hours?

basically if it's not part of the school board approved curriculum it shouldn't be happening in school hours?

I'd prob support that because it certainly wheedle out a lot of religion from public schools.

Tisme · 29 August 2015

Venice under seige

I see that Elton just wants inclusiveness = we can join his brand and cause, not the other way around; his way or the highway

I'm guessing the bloke who wrote this article is a homosexual too

http://www.smh.com.au/world/venice-...ith-elton-john-escalates-20150827-gj9j69.html

Tink · 29 August 2015

As much as I like Elton John's music, he is becoming a bully.

Just like with Dolce and Gabbana, when he tried to boycott their business - pfft.

They told him they were entitled to freedom of speech.

sydboy007 · 29 August 2015

Tink said:
As much as I like Elton John's music, he is becoming a bully.

Just like with Dolce and Gabbana, when he tried to boycott their business - pfft.

They told him they were entitled to freedom of speech.

But you support a business say not making a wedding cake for a couple as that's their right, or a venue refusing to higher out for a gay wedding.

But then you don't support someone saying I disagree with what you are saying and doing and therefore will not support your business and spend my money with a business that is more inline with my views.

The same inconsistency applies to you saying the gayby baby film should not be shown in school hours, but you fully support scripture classes in school hours, even though this is not part of the curriculum.

The rules you apply change depending on whether you agree with what's happening or not.

Value Collector · 29 August 2015

What tink has to realise, is that freedom of speech means you can't be jailed of punished by the government for expressing your opinion.

You are free to express what ever racist or bigoted opinion you like, but the rest of us are also free to avoid you once we find out you're a C##t.

it would still be my duty to serve you if you came into my business, but I am not going to line up at your door, and I will certainly will voice opposition to your claims, and that's not denying your right to freedom of speech, it's express my own.

Tink · 29 August 2015

Syd, they are all gays, one agrees with you and the other two agree with me, that Marriage shouldn't be changed.
Mothers and Fathers are important.
They gave their opinions and there was no stopping to sell to anyone.

I have given my reasons why Marriage shouldn't be changed throughout this thread.

VC, you are clearly not the full quid so won't even bother answering yours.

trainspotter · 30 August 2015

Tink said:
Syd, they are all gays, one agrees with you and the other two agree with me, that Marriage shouldn't be changed.

Mothers and Fathers are important.

They gave their opinions and there was no stopping to sell to anyone.

I have given my reasons why Marriage shouldn't be changed throughout this thread.

VC, you are clearly not the full quid so won't even bother answering yours.

Right there is the crux of the matter at hand.

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